Sitting back and reading this topic for many days now, I just had to add my 2 cents. If anyone remembers my beautiful solid black dog "Storm", one would think that he was dyed. Storm had to have the thickest, plush coat I have ever seen on a black dog. Storm was a Sel. Ch. Steigerhaus Bo Jackson son with a German Mom. I just can't imagine how to dye a dog as I have always been blessed with dogs with wonderful pigment. Storm has been gone for almost 3 years now and I have yet to see a solid black with a coat as thick as his. People would always ask what "supplements" I gave him to enhance his coat. What I think they meant was, "what dye did I use". Heck, if I dyed him, he certainly wouldn't have had that little white spot on his chest. When you hugged Storm if felt like you were hugging a big black bear. Storm was the 4th Veteran Dog at the 2005 National, so I'm sure his picture is still on the PC website. He truly was a gorgeous black dog with no added measures taken. Just ask Paula Cooke. I guess it all boils down to what your "inner self" tells you to do. Me, if I can't win with a dog on his or her own merits and without playing "games", I guess I won't play at all. It just amazes me how mean people can be. How you can't congratulate the winners whether you agree with the judge or not is just totally RUDE! I guess that's why I haven't shown in the GSD ring since I lost Storm. I have now switched to the Belgian Malinois ring and if you think the GSD ring is bad, come on over to this playing field where there are only a few breeders and so the competition is generally the same in the Specials class. At least in GSDs there are more dogs to compete against. Patti "The only thing in the world you can change is yourself, and that makes all the difference in the world". Cher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================