LOL no i dont mean it like that.. "bred reluctantly that i forced the bitch to have sex!!! lol" she is a little fluzzie and this breeding was like sure we can do this.. lol the other breeding i didn't get the number results and didn't realize it was early.. cuz the fluzzie wanted to breed anyway :) she is very very healthy and totally fit, no question in my mind internally she is as well, but i guess everyone says i should have bred her back to back in females when they hit 6.. what did i know :) hindsight is always 20/20 i thought it was the right thing to do, do every other. in germany that breed females til they are 9, 10 yrs old probably because they are still working and active i guess i dont know... but that was the advise i got from there the vet wants me to wait another day BUT as always i know my dogs and i will continue to read her and see how she reacts... no no no no no.... i am not spaying her... we still work and show cant spay them and i dont want too :) that's all i need for her to start acting like some old lady! she would go out of her mind if she couldn't show/work!! no judgement taken. we are all bait when we post here i know this all too well LOL so... i knew that going in, i am in no way offended...my focus is looking for medical help... thanks!!! keep you posted Dawnmarie In a message dated 5/22/2007 1:19:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds writes: Yes, a 7 year old female with one puppy very well could/would have trouble on her sixth litter having produced 34 puppies prior.....sometimes things (like a uterus!) just wear out! I know we're not "supposed" to "humanize" these dogs, but when you wrote "bred reluctantly day 20", all I could do was wince "well, no kidding!" I know it's not PC to be judgmental, but I don't care. Take her in for a section and spay her. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================