I have just finished studying the Bob Lindsey tape of the National for the third time . We certainly are lucky to have Bob do these tapes, since we--as I understand it, no longer do the documentary video tapes as Pace, and Carmen/Scootie used to do. And the DVD's take up a lot less storage space than the videos did. I thought I'd pass on some of my observations, with the caveats of me not being in the actual ring, with "the hands on" experience. And many times the judge would stand between the camera and the dog gaiting "coming and going".And sometimes the judge, for their own better viewing would gait them in a different direction. But that white wall certainly showcased the sidegait, and backs, both the negative and positive. All three judges were consistent in their approach to the dogs, doing the temperament test, and examination, and their judging procedures were easy to follow. Which bring up a question.?? Why ,after the entire class is brought in ,and, say the judge decides to take 10 at a time--are the rest sent out --and then the procedure goes on from there, with taking numbers ,and then rechecking numbers, when the next group, come in? The ring was, and next years will be also, certainly big enough to keep everyone in, and have your three corners that you send your choices to. As I call them --the Keepers--the Possibles--the Not considered. You judge your 10 dogs , send them to whichever corner you think they belong. Go to the next 10 and so on. So at the end, you have Three groups that you can Really work. Sometimes you'll move several from the 2nd group up and place within the first group. And I even moved one up from the "Not considered" ,one time, when I was working on that Group for the last time The time that is now used for Groups going in and out ,checking numbers etc, would be used for judging the animals. I guess we use to work them more than we do now. I'm sure some of you remember Julius Due, and Ernie in his earlier days. And Marie Leary, I guess it was a carry over from the way of working the dogs, by walking, walking, which brings out faults quicker. Anyway ,every judge has his own way of judging, and we have much smaller classes now. But it sure would be nice to see the Specials worked harder. Now to my personal observations POSITIVE 1. Temperament--just Great, much improved 2. No surprise--Bitches superior to the Dogs, some good enough for 3 GVX 3. A number of very nice BLACK GSDs-- nice to see the dark pigmentation, also the grey/black sables also NEGATIVE 1. It appears that we are breeding longer dogs. Instead of the 8-1/2 to 10, they look like 8-1/2 to 11-1/2 or even 12 Remember the old adage " the length of the loin is approximate your hand's width with 4 fingers spread" Short coupling is what to aim for 2.We still see the toe dragging and dead tails 3. Lifting in the front, instead of reaching 4.. A number of soft backs really bouncing up and down--too long in loin, Much more in the males than bitches 5. Soft ears, also in males ,more than bitches Ears that break in the middle and wave at you. I know "you don't gait with your ears",and also dogs aren't perfect. I hesitated to make any negative comments, since I was not in that ring and doing the judging ,but I really was disturbed, both at the National, and then confirmed by the tape at the LENGTH of our GSD. The Bearded Collies have run into the same problem--getting too long a dog ,thinking the dog moves better. Remember ,last year trying to change our Illustrated Standard to conform pictorially to the longer dogs It's better to stick to the Standard ,not change the pictures. Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================