In a message dated 5/29/2008 10:14:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Looking at some old time photos, it appears there were lots of variations on markings - Klodo and his get, lots of the import dogs such as some of the dogs that Ernie Loebe brought over (I think one was Bar?). There just seem to be more different No, we don't classify GSDs re " markings" That comes from your Dalmatian background <G> The imports and ole time dogs were just the same as today. the Bar dog that Denny Kodner campaigned was a dark one The amount of black versus tan,red,gold is not the important consideration. You just wanted good pigment whether Blk& tan,Bi-color,Sable ( red or blk) Structure and movement--- did then and now--- far exceeds color & placement of "markings" Helen Miller Fisher **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================