I don't believe good movement is up to the individual. One country may ask for a different style of moving, but here on this continent, at least in the show ring, we seem to pretty much agree on what's wanted.... and yes, a lot of our dogs are taught to hammer on no matter what.... a free and easy, floating gait is beautiful to watch...we just don't get to see it too often. But shoulders that never open are as bad as hocks that don't open.......sadly, most people never understand that. Lifting is terribly offensive...and yet, it's so common that there are times we forgive it....all of us, even those of us who see it. On the other hand, some people never see it. BTW - terriers should have well-laid back shoulders...what makes a terrier front is the short straight upper arm......and it doesn't belong on a German Shepherd Dog. Ever. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Penny & Bill" <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > One only has to look around at all the different venues and all the > different types of shepherds being shown in them to see that movement > is a matter of interpretation. However, I still think it would be a > good thing to put in OUR standard. > > Penny in NC ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================