In a message dated 1/13/08 11:14:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, Charangsd writes: The 1984 National was in Phoenix. That was the year we first moved here. Wasn't the specials judge Fran Ford? Yes, it was an outdoors national. I showed Destiny in the Specials class, and Fran made all his cuts. Then he brought back all those who were cut to look them over again, in groups of six as I remember. The only bitch he pulled out was Destiny. I had sprained my ankle, and was going to ask Angie Stegner to come in, and Fran asked me what I wanted to do. I decided to gut it out, (I had no pain by then, just a balloon at the end of my right let). We took another pass, and Fran divided his Selects into smaller groups, and excused Destiny again. I think he loved her movement, but at the Select level, he couldn't go with the missing pre-molor. I understood that, and was just glad to get another few minutes in the ring. When I got out, I almost had to cut my shoe off. Two funny stories about that. When Dakota went Winner's Dog in 82, we saw Joan and Fran in the hall of the motel, and Tedi and I were very excited. Fran said to me, "Just wait until tomorrow and see what Destiny does with Barbara Amidon." I didn't think a thing of it, as I knew of her missing tooth, and didn't expect anything. Then Barbara gave her Winner's Bitch, and Ernie Loeb gave her number two Select. When I showed two years later under Fran, I showed him the left side of her mouth first. He looked, and turned to me and said: "Oh yes, it's the other side where the tooth is missing, isn't it?' He is one sharp guy, and a great person. I laughed when he said that, and realized I might as well take my thumb out of her mouth. Was that actually 23 years ago? Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================