I work for a boarded ophthalmologist. And Janice is absolutely correct. A scratched cornea would not prevent passing cerf. Cerf is only looking for hereditary eye problems. And unfortunately they can pass cerf younger-already have litters on the ground- prior to some diseases showing up. Debbie ----- Original Message ---- From: Janice Buchanan <wasatchgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:55:52 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: CERF Cyndi, That's only partly true .... Cerf's are done yearly because congenital (hereditary) problems can appear at any time in life. For example, Pannus often doesn't show any indication until a dog is several years old. However, a scratch from an injury doesn't stop a dog from gaining a Cerf. I have a dog who passed a Cerf even though the vet found severe internal scarring and told me he was nearly blind. He said he often finds that kind of damage in dogs who had bad cases of Parvo or Coronavirus as young puppies. I bought the dog at 17 months, so I don't know if that was what happened. However, the vet put all the information on the Cerf form and told me that since there was nothing inheritable there would be no problem passing. He was right - my dog did pass in spite of the damage. BTW - the breeder who sold me the dog may not have known he was nearly blind; the damage was not obvious until the vet looked at the dialated eyes with a scope in a darkened room. Janice Buchanan, UT On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM, <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't CERF have to be done yearly to be > considered "valid"? .....I had an eye vet tell me that a dog could have > normal eyes as far as heriditary problems, but if there was a "scratch" on > the eye he wouldn't pass CERF. The scratch could come from anything...ie a > hunting dog runs through a field of brush, scratches his eye, and no longer > will pass..... > Cyndi > www.carettigsd.com > > ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================