In a message dated 3/15/10 10:00:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: Sure, especially if they win the BBE class then are handed off to a "real" handler for Winners, I must object. I remember when Lethel Weapon was shown in Bred By under Ed Barritt. I handled the dog, and went to Winner's Dog for a five point major. He was entered by mistake, and Twyla had sent in the entry. We co-owned him. She was upset, because we knew that Ed wanted the best dogs to be entered in Open, and the Breed dog to come from Specials. After I won the Bred By Class, I took Weapon into the Winner's Class. I heard Ed say, "Go to One," so I went to the front of the line. Art Sinclair who had the Open dog told me, he said, "You are the one." I said, no, I heard him. As I looked up, Ed walked to me and gave me the Winner's Dog Trophy. So, yes, you can win majors from Bred By. It just takes a good judge. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================