[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeds/Opinions..

  • From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Stormy435@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:04:54 -0800

Well...............since you ASKED.........<G>
We were new to the Breed when the vote went through the GSDCA, Inc. to make 
whites a disqualifying
fault in the Breed Standard.  Right up to the vote,  the white DQ was a hard 
fought battle on both sides
with deep rifts in the differing opinions....but went to the membership and  it 
passed along with the 
other DQ's.
I remember as 'newbies'  we were aware of how serious the battle was.   it was 
even discussed in 
Dog World at that time.  (  there was a new "Blue" champion called Hoobin's 
Blue Boy in Dog World )  
Why go through that again to try to REVERSE a MEMBERSHIP  vote??
At this place in time, Clubs and Club members are struggling....we are losing 
members and Clubs,  we 
are fighting Breed/ Dog / bad law Legislation and are more concerned about 
genetics and health issues 
than a color as we try to improve our Breed.    To go through this kind of 
battle and split  again would not 
do the Club nor the Breed any real good.   
What would be the point?     
The DQ has certainly done the Breed no harm.   We just never see a German 
Shepherd Dog any more with 
white legs and some white clear up to the shoulders ....other than the 
"developing" "rare" "Panda" Shepherd  
which is just another scam in my opinion.  They ARE  "rare"  only because we 
don't really  breed whites 
and black and tans anymore.   
There had to be a reason to make whites a DQ and I have a hunch it had more to 
do with what breeders
were doing than the dogs themselves....i.e. Panda's....etc.    As we know 
changing a Standard is never a
simple thing and AKC does not make it easy nor want Clubs to keep changing 
their approved Standard, 
and that  was no exception when it was done then.    
I doubt they would look favorably upon another change and battle to try to 
REVERSE a vote!!!
I think it is best to leave it as is.
I personally never want to see our German Shepherd Dog broken into  "varieties" 
 just because of a color 
or size or coats......nor do I think we should follow the S.V. in this action 
with long coats.
It's THE German Shepherd Dog........not a "variety" of a Breed.    
I think we have a great Breed and it is well served by the Standard we have as 
long as WE pay attention!
This has never been a "color"  breed other than strong  rich colors being 
preferred........and let's not break 
it up into 'varieties'  now or go back and try to make a DQ acceptable.    
Why 'go backwards'.......It won't be good for the Breed and it certainly won't 
be good for the Parent Club.

Give me time to try to run for cover..................<G>


Carolyn    marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com


  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeds


  Most breeds that exist today were developed for a purpose...be that as a 
water retriever, all-purpose hunting 
  companion, guardian (of home and/or flock), herding assistant, perimeter 
keeper, all around farm dog, vermin 
  killer (sometimes with specific vermin in mind), or just as little companions 
to attract the fleas away from the
   humans, or to keep us warm...acting as living hot water bottles.  Some may 
have been the result of an accident, 
  or a "sport," but when that happened, people tried to get them to breed so 
that they'd be recognizable as what 
  they were supposed to be...a new breed.
           Most of the designer breeds of today were bred just for the hell of 
it...with the possible exception of some 
  of the "doodles," which were supposed to be non-shedding.  They aren't...not 
even in the majority.  Also, they 
  don't resemble one another very much within those so called "breeds," and 
heaven knows, Labradoodles have 
  been around a long enough time to have more similarity than they do.
      Years ago I knew someone who was trying to make a new breed out of 
crossing Irish Setters with Golden Retrievers....she went out of my radar and 
to this day I have never heard that idea from anyone else.        
  F1 generations may be dissimilar...but after 20 years or so, some progress 
should have been made.
         When a new breed is developed, some guidelines (a standard) have to be 
drawn up...and over time, 
  some changes may be made.  Still, turning a DQ into a new breed sounds pretty 
stupid to me, too.  
  Someone may call it a   "rare" auality, but it isn't...it's just something 
that isn't allowed.    Many of us would  prefer
   that the minimum IQ required of dog show exhibitors be at least 130 ... but 
that ain't gonna happen, either.
          If a bunch of dogs with the same DQ find favor with people who want 
to make those dogs into a new breed, 
  what do you REALLY think about it?  I wrote a couple of weeks ago that then 
we should make coated GSDs 
  into a new  breed, too.    
       Not long ago, right here on this list, there was a bit of hell raised 
about some guy on the left coast who was 
  advertising his oversize Shepherds as a new, special breed....as I recall, 
nobody thought much of that and wanted 
  to drum the fellow off the planet.  Same with those panda dogs.
      But white is now going to be OK?

  Ridiculous.

  Peggy 


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