Dave is absolutely correct. The difference between what Dawn refers to as rights and what the ARists consider rights in the dictionary is the following: Dawn's version - That which is conventionally moral or appropriate. (what we call welfare) Peta and HSUS version - An entitlement granted under the law. (what they want to give animals to pry them from being owned) Incidently Cass Sunstein, who is the regulatory czar, subscribes to this belief. He feels animals should be represented by an attorney and has written a book supporting animal rights. Both definitions above are of rights, however, the ARists subscribe to the latter and want to eliminate animals from human ownership, etc. They use their donations (most of which are contributed because of their blatant deception of helping animals) for high paid lobbyists to enact anti-animal legislation. Regards, Pat ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================