Evan, Grand Rapids is 40 miles from Allegan and 10 miles to Highway US 131 which takes you to GR. http://www.distancebetweencities.net/allegan_mi_and_grand-rapids_mi/ You mentioned you drove by the Allegan exit from GR to Kalamazoo but not the case as both Wayland and Plainwell are the cities by US 131 and Allegan is 9-10 west of it. Lloyd's Kennel in Allegan, MI was over 40 miles from GR. I do remember being there as a child as my dad took me there. I would like to ask of what year did you start the Asgard Kennel in GR? I have been looking through old Reviews of late 50's-70's but have not seen you advertised. I do see Indiana and MI Kennels there as I have been researching for the oldest Kennels still breeding GSD's today. Thanks Theresa scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 7/27/14, Evan wrote: We at Asgard started our breeding program in Grand Rapids, Michigan, 15 miles from where Lloyd Bracket started, and was doing his breeding. We saw whites in a number of litters being born in Michigan and even a White German Shepherd dog sled team, (which were the strongest healthiest dogs I ever saw). We were told to cull the whites, that they all were weak, all had health problems and seldom lived normal lives. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================