I bred to Bodo and had a beautiful litter. As I was taking all 8 of = them to the car, at 10 weeks of age, a motorcycle came roaring down the street. These little guys turned into attack dogs and chased the motorcycle up = the street. I was caught between shock, fear and laughter. Helen Franklin -----Original Message----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:42 AM To: showgsd-l digest users Subject: showgsd-l Digest V1 #409 showgsd-l Digest Thu, 16 Dec 2004 Volume: 01 Issue: 409 In This Issue: #1: From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #407 #2: From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: German change into American type WHEN #3: From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx Subject: grinders #4: From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Bodo #5: From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Orlando Brags-late but still proud #6: From: "edwinx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Bodo #7: From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Subject: From us to all of you #8: From: Cecifranco2@xxxxxxx Subject: lupus #9: From: RckyIizard@xxxxxxx Subject: GSD newspaper article #10: From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Orlando Brags...Again #11: From: "DOC" <wynsum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: ADMIN - BRAGS AND LITTERS #12: From: "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject:=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:52:26 +0000 From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #407 If you are asking if there is parking at the show site (Concord, North Carolina) for RV's the answer is yes....or at least it is available, = there were quite a number of RV's parked at the showsite a few weeks ago when = we were there....Pauline Ropaja German Shepherds ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:53:18 EST Subject: Re: German change into American type WHEN what about in the last 15 -20 years? By the way my very first "show = dog"=20 was a Bodo dau from California. Beautiful black and red, great mind. Would=20 have made a great coyote. =20 Another case of not knowing enough to make an intelligent purchase. Sally The House of Nasdaq ROM Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex http://danann.netfirms.com http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest From: Danannkennel@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:56:13 EST Subject: grinders For those of you who are into raw and grind food I would like to know = what=20 brand of grinder you have and if you are satisfied with it. I want to = buy one=20 that will do leg quarters. some of my older guys need a little help Please send privately as having just gotten over the stud dog discussion = I am=20 not interested in hearing a lot of negative views on feeding raw. =20 Sally The House of Nasdaq ROM Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex http://danann.netfirms.com http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest From: Gsdjudge@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:00:04 EST Subject: Re: Bodo I was a Bodo fan. He was owned by Eric Renner and Bill = Schwanger.Handaome dog=20 with gfreat temperament. Bill moved to Pahrump Nevada and brought Bodo = with=20 him. I lost track of Bill and Bodo in the early 70's. bud ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:00:28 -0500 From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Orlando Brags-late but still proud CkkgaGF2ZSB0byBzaGFyZSBteSBicmFncyBmcm9tIE9ybGFuZG8gdG9vLi4uLkkgYW0gbGF0 ZSB3aXRoIHRoZXNlIGJ1dCBJIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBhd2F5Li4uYW55d2F5IG15IGJlYXV0aWZ1 bChJTUhPKUpvbGkoIENoIFJvcGFqYeKAmXMgQ2hhdGVhdSBCZWF1am9sYWlzKSBhbmQgaGVy IHZlcnkgd29uZGVyZnVsIGhhbmRsZXIgSmFtaWUgQ2x1dGUsIHdlbnQgQk9CIGFsbCB0aHJl ZSBkYXlzIGFuZCBwbGFjZWQgR3JwIDIgb24gRnJpZGF5IGFuZCBHcnAgNCBvbiBTYXR1cmRh eS4gIE1hbnkgdGhhbmtzIHRvIEp1ZGdlcyBQZWdneSBNaWNrZWxzb24sIE5vcm1hbiBIZXJi ZWwsIENhcm9seW4gSGVyYmVsIGFuZCBCb2IgU2xheS4gIEpvbGkgYW5kIEphbWllIG1ha2Ug YSBncmVhdCB0ZWFtLiAgSm9saSBhbmQgaGVyIGJyb3RoZXIgQmVhdSAoQ2ggUm9wYWph4oCZ cyBDaGF0ZWF1IEJlYXVsaWV1KSBhcmUgYm90aCBvdXQgb2YgRmFsa3JpZ2lhIOKAmHMgaGFu ZHNvbWUgUmVkIGRvZ+KApi4gSSBhbSBzbyBwcm91ZCBvZiB0aGVzZSB0d28gd29uZGVyZnVs IHlvdW5nIGRvZ3MsIHRoZXkgYm90aCBwbGFjZWQgaW4gdGhlaXIgZnV0dXJpdGllcywgZmlu aXNoZWQgdGhlaXIgY2hhbXBpb25zaGlwcyBhdCAyNiBtb250aHMgYW5kIDI4IG1vbnRocywg aGFkIHRoZWlyIEhJQ3MgYXQgMjcgbW9udGhzIGFuZCBzaW5jZSBKb2xpIGZpbmlzaGVkIGlu IEFwcmlsIG9mIHRoaXMgeWVhciwgc2hlIGhhcyBiZWVuIHNob3duIGluIHNwZWNpYWxzIGJ5 IEphbWllIDEyIHRpbWVzIGFuZCBoYXMgcGxhY2VkIGluIGdyb3VwIDEwIHRpbWVzLiAgQmVh dSB3YXMgc2hvd24gaW4gU3BlY2lhbHMganVzdCBhIGNvdXBsZSBvZiB0aW1lcyBhZnRlciBo ZSBmaW5pc2hlZCBpbiBGZWJydWFyeSBhbmQgd2VudCBCT0IgZWFjaCB0aW1lIGFuZCBvdmVy IHNvbWUgdmVyeSBuaWNlIG90aGVyIFNwZWNpYWxz4oCmLlRIQU5LUyBMeW5kYSBhbmQgR2Vu ZSAoRmFsa3JpZ2lhKWZvciBhbGwgeW91ciBoZWxwIGFuZCBzdXBwb3J0LCBjb3VsZG7igJl0 IGhhdmUgZG9uZSBpdCB3aXRob3V0IHlvdXIgYWR2aWNlLiAKClBhdWxpbmUgTW9vbiAoUm9w YWphIEdlcm1hbiBTaGVwaGVyZHMpCgo=3D ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest From: "edwinx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Bodo Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 09:11:04 -0800 My first protection dog was a Bodo great grand son, Von Erik's Vida = Blue,=20 still my favorite....when I was going tru divorce number one I sold = "Blue"=20 his call name to the US Airforce...the military shipped him to Lackland=20 Airforce base in San Antonio TX.......well... Blue flunked the program = and=20 the Airforce shipped him back...but that was a blessing because I was = able=20 to keep "Blue" and my house...lol....Blue died of bloat in 96...first = time=20 my son ever saw me cry.....with out getting into trouble or starting a = small war like yesterday...importing dogs into our so-called "conformation=20 blood-lines" may not be for everyone but its not a bad thing....my wife = was=20 reading something about Basenjis and she learned that the breeding=20 population in this country at one time was so bad that a few breeders = went=20 to Africa to imports a few dogs back to the US....Ed Caruso. ..who is Ed Caruso...my wife's last name is Caruso...many times folks=20 calling on the phone looking for her will call me Mr. Caruso...lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <SCHARO1@xxxxxxx> To: <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:10 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Bodo > > In a message dated 12/16/2004 9:53:12 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 > irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Bodo v Lierberg managed to finish=20 > his American championship, and also got his ROM. Asslan v Klammle=20 > was a very beautiful dog. Unfortunately he could > not seem to reproduce himself, and produced a very tough temperament=20 > which > did not suit American breeders. He, too was an American Champion. He = did > not complete his ROM, though he did produce three champions. I saw = this=20 > dog > at the National, and he was, indeed, very beautiful. > > > > In 1968 we were living in Mannheim, Germany. Bob was a Lt, in a tank=20 > company, and we wanted to get a GSD while we were there. Fortunately=20 > for us, his First Srgt. had married into a German family which was=20 > very involved in breeding . He insisted in helping Bob secure a well = > bred shepherd. From the > Verheim Kennel Club, we purchased a Bodo Von Lierberg grandson. His = sire > was > Joll vom Bemholt, who was the first German bred GSD to finish an = English > championship after WWII. > We knew nothing about dogs, temperment, GSD, etc.But we got a = fantastic > dog. HE had a tremendous Ball drive, (which i guess is Play drive) = HE=20 > had an > understanding vocabulary of probably 300 phrases. (We did not know = to=20 > train > by one work phrases. We said,"Ranger, go over there and lay down. = NO,=20 > not > there, the sun is too hot. Move to the shade." OF course he = understood > perfectly. He was protective of us, house and kids. He chased off=20 > several > prowlers, and guarded the kids when they played outside. He loved = our=20 > friends but > would not tolerate any dog bigger than himself. When introduced to=20 > Shutzhund, > he "came out" on the first try. We lost him at age 6 to torsion. It = was=20 > like > loosing our first born. He set the standard for temperament that we = use > in > the dogs we breed today. Thank you Bodo. > Carol Moore > > > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the=20 > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or=20 > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the=20 > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN=20 > ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS=20 > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION = WILL=20 > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at=20 > admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org=20 > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:27:42 EST Subject: From us to all of you Please click on the link below and have a Great Holiday Seasons Happy Holidays from http://fairhopegsd.com/ Fairhope German Shepherds *^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.com ------------------------------ Msg: #8 in digest From: Cecifranco2@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:41:49 EST Subject: lupus I also have a very good friend excelent dog owner with a dog with = Lupus..and is so heartbreaking..she is doing all possible and the problem is that = the=20 medications the dog has to take have affected the liver and now the vet = is going=20 to have him on inmunodepressants (hope I wrote it correctly) so the body = doesn't fight and create all types of antibodies that are affecting = him..I really=20 do not understand too well..but it is heartbreaking!!!! Ceci Martinez Southernwind Kennels FCPR Judge Affiliated member of the FCI http://www.geocities.com/ceciliamart2001/ ------------------------------ Msg: #9 in digest From: RckyIizard@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:50:23 EST Subject: GSD newspaper article This was in The Salt Lake Tribune yesterday. Neat story, although I = don't=20 like the phrasing of the headline. =20 http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2488205 Hope you enjoy. :) =20 Liz in Utah Visit my website at http://hometown.aol.com/rckyiizard/index.html=20 ------------------------------ Msg: #10 in digest Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:13:36 -0500 From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Orlando Brags...Again SSB3YXMgdG9sZCB0aGF0IG15IG9yaWdpbmFsIGJyYWcuLi5kaWQgbm90IHF1aXRlIHRyYW5z bGF0ZSBpbnRvIGVuZ2xpc2guLi5zbyBoZXJlIGl0IGlzIGFnYWluLi4uCkkgaGF2ZSB0byBz aGFyZSBteSBicmFncyBmcm9tIE9ybGFuZG8gdG9vLi4uLkkgYW0gbGF0ZSB3aXRoIHRoZXNl IGJ1dCBJIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBhd2F5Li4uYW55d2F5IG15IGJlYXV0aWZ1bCAoSU1ITykgSm9s aSAoIENoIFJvcGFqYeKAmXMgQ2hhdGVhdSBCZWF1am9sYWlzKSBhbmQgaGVyIHZlcnkgd29u ZGVyZnVsIGhhbmRsZXIgSmFtaWUgQ2x1dGUsIHdlbnQgQk9CIGFsbCB0aHJlZSBkYXlzIGFu ZCBwbGFjZWQgR3JwIDIgb24gRnJpZGF5IGFuZCBHcnAgNCBvbiBTYXR1cmRheS4gICBNYW55 IHRoYW5rcyB0byBKdWRnZXMgUGVnZ3kgTWlja2Vsc29uLCBOb3JtYW4gSGVyYmVsLCBDYXJv bHluIEhlcmJlbCBhbmQgQm9iIFNsYXkuICBKb2xpIGFuZCBKYW1pZSBtYWtlIGEgZ3JlYXQg dGVhbS4gIEpvbGkgYW5kIGhlciBicm90aGVyIEJlYXUgKENoIFJvcGFqYeKAmXMgQ2hhdGVh dSBCZWF1bGlldSkgYXJlIGJvdGggb3V0IG9mIEZhbGtyaWdpYSDigJhzIGhhbmRzb21lIFJl ZCBkb2figKYuIEkgYW0gc28gcHJvdWQgb2YgdGhlc2UgdHdvIHdvbmRlcmZ1bCB5b3VuZyBk b2dzLCB0aGV5IGJvdGggcGxhY2VkIGluIHRoZWlyIGZ1dHVyaXRpZXMsIGZpbmlzaGVkIHRo ZWlyIGNoYW1waW9uc2hpcHMgYXQgMjYgbW9udGhzIGFuZCAyOCBtb250aHMsIGhhZCB0aGVp ciBISUNzIGF0IDI3IG1vbnRocyBhbmQgc2luY2UgSm9saSBmaW5pc2hlZCBpbiBBcHJpbCBv ZiB0aGlzIHllYXIsIHNoZSBoYXMgYmVlbiBzaG93biBpbiBzcGVjaWFscyBieSBKYW1pZSAx MiB0aW1lcyBhbmQgaGFzIHBsYWNlZCBpbiBncm91cCAxMCB0aW1lcy4gICBCZWF1IHdhcyBz aG93biBpbiBTcGVjaWFscyBqdXN0IGEgY291cGxlIG9mIHRpbWVzIGFmdGVyIGhlIGZpbmlz aGVkIGluIEZlYnJ1YXJ5IGFuZCB3ZW50IEJPQiBlYWNoIHRpbWUgYW5kIG92ZXIgc29tZSB2 ZXJ5IG5pY2Ugb3RoZXIgU3BlY2lhbHPigKYuVEhBTktTIEx5bmRhIGFuZCBHZW5lIChGYWxr cmlnaWEpIGZvciBhbGwgeW91ciBoZWxwIGFuZCBzdXBwb3J0LCBjb3VsZG7igJl0IGhhdmUg ZG9uZSBpdCB3aXRob3V0IHlvdXIgYWR2aWNlLiAKClBhdWxpbmUgTW9vbiAoIFJvcGFqYSBH ZXJtYW4gU2hlcGhlcmRzKQo=3D ------------------------------ Msg: #11 in digest From: "DOC" <wynsum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:30:07 -0500 Subject: ADMIN - BRAGS AND LITTERS We have a brags page, a recipe page and a LitterBox page on line at the=20 showgsd-l website. Nothing has changed. Go to the website and select the Interactive Area Drop down menu. On or about January 1, all submitted litters whelped in December will be = listed. Brags are encouraged.=3DA0 This includes litters sired by your males, = wins b=3D y=20 your progeny and all good things .They can also be posted on the website = (POINT SHOW WINS, LITTERS, ROMS but nothing for sale! ) Do not=20 respond on the=3DA0website with Congrats, as this will generate a PUBLIC = webpage. We have a LitterBox=3DA0 page for Member Litter Announcements.=20 Please do not announce litters prior to their birth. This is considered=20 ADVERTISING on this list. Litter announcements should carry the subject=20 line LITTER ANNOUNCEMENT, and should be done within 10 days of their=20 being whelped. Include sire, dam date whelped, number of pups, gender = and=20 colors only. If you do not complete the form on the website, your litter = announcement will not be listed. We do not save the Announcements made=20 on the list. You can say just about anything on this page EXCEPT PRICE. Once the=20 page is posted, it will not be edited, so be careful when you type in=20 information. Showgsd-l Administration New Url: http://www.showgsd.org Email Changes: http://www.showgsd.org/mail.html Admin: admin@xxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the list use: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx POST BRAGS ON THE Website at http://www.showgsd.org/brags/index.html ANNOUNCE CURRENT LITTERS at http://www.showgsd.org/goodlitterbox.html ------------------------------ Msg: #12 in digest From: "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject:=20 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:41:42 -0500 Edie,=20 You hit the nail on the head when you stated that the "man at the top" = (in Germany) actually controls breed type. Indeed the last man at the top = has changed and we will probably see more changes.=20 Remember bringing back first Shepherd from Germany in 1957. Didn't know = it but he was competitive in the show ring. Joe Poepping of Bel Vista = Kennel said "show him" by now he was 8 years old, won second in the Veteran = Class under knowledgeable judge Reginald Cleveland to the GV Ch Bonnie Bergere (sp?) of Kenrose. Joe ended up breeding one of his lovely line bred = Hessian Bitches to him. In those days the German Dogs were competitive. Then = big changes. I think Lance of Fran-Jo is about 3/4ths German Pedigree, = Lance was the big influence for giving us the lovely top line and graceful = motion we all love. Lance was a Happening one seldom sees. Certainly Ch Bernd = v Kallergarten was very competitive. What about GV Brix vd Krafenkrone, = great motion, beautiful shoulder, was the foundation for the great Waldesruh = line behind so many winning dogs?. Forgive the spelling, (help me Helen = Fisher) it's been too many years. =20 Happy and Safe Holidays to Everyone=20 Nancy Harper in not so warm Atlanta.=20 ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V1 #409 ******************************* ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 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