Hi Barbara, You didn't breed her to a dog with bad hips though right? That was the my point that I attempted to make. We should always be looking to breed a bitch like that to a dog with a strong history of good hips in an attempt to breed that problem out of your lines. It can be done... not 100% perfect, but you have to try. Rick Haase ------------------------------ Msg: #8 in digest From: "Barbara or DTA Amidon" <amidon@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Bad advice? Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:06:48 GMT My first 2 Champions did not OFA one was Champion Perle Romerblut SCH11..Perle won the open Bitch Class at the 59National..Did I breed her you bet..Perle was Gorgeous and produced Select Champion Perle v Beckhold owned by Alan Sandell..Plus many other really good progeny..Perle lived to 13 never limped in fact went Best of Breed at 12 at the Long Island Spec..Unlike the Grand Victrix who had fertility problems..We should all do what we feel is the right thing to do..Not to have bred this fantastic bitch would have be criminal//Barbara Amidon ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================