I would also like to add that in searching the Internet you can find reports from the Veterinarians in Germany warning the GSD breeders that they ARE seeing a lot of back problems related to structural problems. I'm JUST SAYIN........... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Try this link to Bad Bolls Progeny I "BEEN SAYIN' ".........!!!!! .<G> AND this is the top dog .......and his progeny are all the same.......you absolutely cannot argue my point about backs and rears......<G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com From: Hickoryhill To: WITMS@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Try this link to Bad Bolls Progeny OMG! My retinas are burned. As each one of the progeny walked past I thought to myself "it can't get much worse than this!" But it did. From: WITMS@xxxxxxxxx: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:53:55 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Try this link to Bad Bolls Progeny I agree with Joyce: " I am sorry but watching those dogs walk in the ring looked like they should be hurting with the roach in the back and the way the rears were" I say, Unfortunately most have horrible shoulder placement, short upper arms, no curve of stifle, and those poor short necks... All that pounding has to take it's tole on their bodies ... Susie _www.witmergsd.com_ (http://www.witmergsd.com) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================