Hi Kathy. In what you are saying about back and spine problems I agree. I also read and article (wish I could find) about 4 or 5 years ago I thought was interesting, It was about a Police Department in Germany (don't remember the city) had replaced all of the German Shepherds with Belgian Melanoise (spelling) and the reason was with many spinal problems as discovered through research. As stated that the spine is not structured and cannot handle that type of back (roach) which is not level. I thought the article (much longer) was very interesting and seem to make sense. Not sure if it was a magazine or newspaper article. If I find the article will let you know. _____________Louie -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Tank Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:32 PM To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bad Bolls bad back Progeny You can find that here, too . We had a bitch that at 10 mos was diagnosed with "ski ramping" of the vertebral bodies basically a cupping and rotation... 100% American lines...said she had the spine of a 9 year old. She came from a line of dogs notorious for dead tails. I have noticed interestingly however we seem to be seeing more dead tails in some of the German dogs as well. Maybe we are not so different in our concerns eh? Kathy *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*<http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/> *Home of: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle * * "Victory...*Vires et honestas" On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I would also like to add that in searching the Internet you can find > reports from the Veterinarians > in Germany warning the GSD breeders that they ARE seeing a lot of back > problems related to > structural problems. > > I'm JUST SAYIN........... > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================