[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: BOARD VOTE
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- To: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:06:09 -0600
I have stated that I am certain there are Board members who voted "yes" for Mr.
Hunte for what they feel are legitimate reasons. I would hope that these Board
members would share their thoughts as to why they voted as they did. some of
the Board members that voted "yes" might be people that 99% of the time I can
agree with on issues.some may be folks I personally like very much, but this
may be one issue we may not agree on. On the flip side, I also feel there may
have been some board members who voted "yes" for Mr. Hunte, because of his
affiliation with certain people..this to me is not a legitimate reason. Those
people, I would not hesitate to boycott as they have no real concerns about the
club..but only their own personal agendas and money and perhaps their future
careers. If we continue to live in perpetual fear of lawsuits..we may as well
just chuck everything...what is the point of having guidelines or rules if you
can't enforce them..or don't plan to.If you change th
e by-laws..this doesn't prevent someone from suing you..you still have legal
costs and the headaches that go along with such litigation..so can make the
changes you have proposed..(and the ideas you have proposed are very good)..but
that will not keep someone from suing, if they simply want to create a
problem and have the resources to do it. Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
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Sent: 1/29/2007 9:39:02 AM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: BOARD VOTE
In a message dated 1/29/2007 9:51:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes:
In a message dated 1/29/2007 8:35:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
If all the "NO" votes post..then we can out those who voted "YES"
If some of those that voted "Yes" happen to be judging our National..then
boycott them. If you feel passionately about this issue, then don't EVER
vote these Board members in again...and don't support them in ANY endeavor.
If this causes conflict within the Board..too bad.. that should have been
thought of before some on the Board decided to back a person that violates
the very principles the Board was elected to uphold. I understand that
there was an alleged promise by Mr. Hunte to make a sizable donation to our
club if he was allowed membership. Personally, if this is true, I don't
think our club should accept it. It is blood money. How can you accept a
donation from someone who traffics in dogs..if we accept it, than we are
partners in crime. Christine
Very good post Christine. My feelings exactly.....I made the decision at
the meeting when the result was heard to boycott a yea voter judging the
national if disclosed. The bylaw interpretation was difficult for some
board
members but there was an option.......this could have been tabled indefinitely
or at least until the annual meeting and put into the memberships hands.
What is done is done.............but everyone needs to get informed and make
careful, conscientious decisions at election time.
Molly
Trillia German Shepherds since 1974
I would have done exactly what's being done (voted yes to avoid a legal snafu
and then worked to change the bylaws). I have read and re-read the bylaws. I
have looked for a legal leg to stand on to deny membership based on an
individual's occupation and I sure haven't found one. For me, the mistake was
made when the application process was changed. I understand why it was done
(to move us in line with available on-line technology), but it has left us in a
pickle. Was this foreseeable? Who knows...spilt milk.
Now, you can agree or disagree if the club was in jeopardy of a protracted
legal battle and/or if the board members could be held personally liable and/or
if the battle would have merit. (It doesn't matter, even legal battles without
merit cost money; lots and lots of $$$$...just ask the parents of the Duke
students!)
It's all well and good to be all passionate sitting at your keyboard and take
the moral high road when it isn't your own house/bank account/estate for your
children that are in jeopardy and/or when you don't have to make the call that
could possibly jeopardize the club's financial stability. Very easy then to
opine, isn't it, when you personally have nothing to loose? But go ahead,
boycott this, protest that...if you must.
Moving forward, there are a number of breed clubs that have a clause in their
bylaws prohibiting members from trafficking in puppies. I sent examples to the
board when this originally came up and I will find/send the info to Tish in the
next two weeks. (Interesting...I predict that our members may not like/would
certainly get tangled in some of these restrictions...some are stringent!)
The outcome will be the same, in roughly the same time frame and we will have a
permanent and better solution in our bylaws. In fact, we can rework the ethics
committee and the Breeders' Code is being worked on...all super things
IMO....without putting the club in jeopardy I might add. So...I applaud the
results. We avoided conflict, learned from our mistakes and now we rework the
bylaws for a permanent solution.
Now, will this decrease the wholesale trafficking of puppies? Will this change
anything as far as millers and brokers and pet shops? No, but our club's name
won't be associated, which is a good thing.
Kathy
member GSDCA, DVGSDC
three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
visit Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs
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