[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: BOARD VOTE

  • From: caggra@xxxxxxx
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:59:35 -0500

And at very least our club certainly has the dollars available to have hired an 
outside legal expert that could guide us through options.
 
Jeff 
 
 
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From: caggra@xxxxxxx
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx; hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:51 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: BOARD VOTE

I won't pretend to know all the details of this entire situation or at all be 
up 
to date on the legal issues pertaining to it.  However, based on the 
information 
I have seen and heard, if there was ever a passionate issue or person that our 
club, it's membership and it's elected voice(board) could and should take on 
and 
put their dollars toward, it is this one.  
 
Jeff Pyle
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
To: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx; hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: BOARD VOTE

 
In a message dated 1/29/2007 9:51:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx writes:
In a  message dated 1/29/2007 8:35:04 A.M. Central Standard Time,   
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
If  all the "NO" votes  post..then we can out those who voted "YES"
If  some of those that  voted "Yes" happen to be judging our  National..then
boycott them. If  you feel passionately about this  issue, then don't EVER
vote these  Board members in again...and don't  support them in ANY endeavor.
If  this causes conflict within the  Board..too bad.. that should have  been
thought of  before some  on the Board decided to back a  person that violates
the very  principles the Board was elected to  uphold. I understand that
there  was an alleged promise by Mr. Hunte  to make a sizable donation to  our
club if he was allowed membership.  Personally, if this is true, I  don't
think our club should accept it.  It is blood money. How can you  accept a
donation from someone who  traffics in dogs..if we accept it,  than we are
partners in crime.  Christine



Very good post Christine.  My feelings  exactly.....I  made the decision at 
the meeting when the result was  heard to  boycott a yea voter judging the 
national if   disclosed.    The bylaw interpretation was difficult for  some  
board 
members but there was an option.......this could have been   tabled 
indefinitely 
or at least until the annual meeting and put into  the  memberships hands.  
What is done is done.............but  everyone  needs to get informed and 
make 
careful, conscientious  decisions at  election time.   
Molly

Trillia   German Shepherds since 1974 



I would have done exactly what's being done (voted yes to avoid a legal  
snafu and then worked to change the bylaws).  I have read and re-read the  
bylaws. 
 I have looked for a legal leg to stand on to deny membership based  on an 
individual's occupation and I sure haven't found one.  For me, the  mistake was 
made when the application process was changed.  I understand  why it was done 
(to move us in line with available on-line technology), but it  has left us in 
a pickle. Was this foreseeable?  Who knows...spilt  milk. 
 
Now, you can agree or disagree if the club was in jeopardy of a protracted  
legal battle and/or if the board members could be held personally  liable 
and/or if the battle would have merit.  (It doesn't matter,  even legal battles 
without merit cost money; lots and lots of $$$$...just ask  the parents of the 
Duke students!)
 
It's all well and good to be all passionate sitting at your keyboard and  
take the moral high road when it isn't your own house/bank account/estate for  
your children that are in jeopardy and/or when you don't have to make the call  
that could possibly jeopardize the club's financial stability.  Very easy  
then to opine, isn't it, when you personally have nothing to loose?  But go  
ahead, boycott this, protest that...if you must.
 
Moving forward, there are a number of breed clubs that have a clause in  
their bylaws prohibiting members from trafficking in puppies.  I sent  examples 
to 
the board when this originally came up and I will find/send the info  to Tish 
in the next two weeks.  (Interesting...I predict that our  members may not 
like/would certainly get tangled in some of these  restrictions...some are 
stringent!)
 
The outcome will be the same, in roughly the same time frame and we  will 
have a permanent and better solution in our bylaws.  In fact, we can  rework 
the 


ethics committee and the Breeders' Code is being worked on...all  super things 
IMO....without putting the club in jeopardy I might add.   So...I applaud the 
results.   We avoided conflict, learned from our  mistakes and now we rework 
the bylaws for a permanent solution.
 
Now, will this decrease the wholesale trafficking of puppies?  Will  this 
change anything as far as millers and brokers and pet shops? No, but our  
club's 


name won't be associated, which is a good thing.  
 
Kathy
member GSDCA, DVGSDC
three  generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!

visit _Pine  Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ 
(http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)  


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