Thanks Sandy, I appreciate your response...Liz's post with the quote from the Redbook really cleared it up for me...I have had a number of Redbooks but I had not bought any recently and I couldn't remember its actual "stated" purpose; I guess what caught my eye was a post that came across as saying that the Redbook showed the "best producing" sires/dams; whereas in my opinion, the Redbook just was a listing of what was produced; by whom; and awards that they had received; I certainly did not think that it was "supposed" to reflect whether what was produced was necessarily an indication of quality or a ranking of "best producing". However, I too, have always found it to be a good source of information. Pauline Pauline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/) Ropaja German Shepherds: Member: GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta In a message dated 11/20/2008 3:03:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skozub@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: At 01:41 PM 11/20/2008 -0500, you wrote: >So Is the purpose of the Redbook?to show?us the sires and dams?that are >the?"best producing" (i.e. to the standard)?or is it showing us the sires >and dams with the "most winning" get?...I was under the impression that >the original intent was the first; but after reading some of those posts, >I am now wondering; but I could be wrong...Pauline >www.ropajagsd.com > Unless you look at the number of breedings per winning (CH.) progeny, the ROM does not really indicate just how good of a producer the parents are. (esp. the sires) Many of the "top producers" have been bred hundreds of times. The redbook is useful but does not always giv e a true picture. (I have all of them since the early 80s) Sandy Sandra Kozub KcK Kennels http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================