Since Herr Henke became the President of the SV, I believe that was with the 2002 election, the President of the SV has not judged the German Sieger Show. What will occur in the future judging of the Sieger Show is unknown . Mary -----Original Message----- From: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2011 10:48 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] American/ German In a message dated 12/17/11 8:34:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, arcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: When the Martins were in control in Germany they felt the roach was the ight thing to do.* hich bugs me to no end. It shouldn't have mattered what they felt...the tandard has never called for a roachy back. They're Shepherds, not hippets or Bedlingtons That is why our GSDCA President does not judge our National each year. The merican apporach is very different. There was talk between me and a past resident of the GSDCA that while in office our President should not be howing. I am not sure I agree with that, but I do know it sort of has been he tradition. he SV president does judge their show, or at least that is how it used to e. I am not sure if it is still going on or not. I don't spend much time hinking about what they do in Germany, or Ireland either. van Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================