I have not seen Delta so I do not know but I would suspect this is a pretty nice animal. Really, this is what it takes. Also, the dog must be in good condition as well as presented well it sounds like Zac does a great job, kudo's. It is so wonderful to see this and hear of this because it does happen. It is not always easy and you have to take your lumps, but we all do folks....I The most important thing to do when showing dogs in my opionion is have fun..... Not every day is going to be fun and it is certainly more fun to win then loose but, enjoy the poeple and your dogs first, the rest well, it will most likely come. Deb In a message dated 12/7/2006 8:48:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, Sue.Mazzeo@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I want to tell you a story, that while not typical, does show that it is possible for an owner/handler to finish his own dog without spending a fortune. My husband and I went to a party last night to celebrate the championship of COVY-TUCKER HILL DETA OF HUDSPETH. What's so neat about this particular championship is that the owner/handler Zac Hudspeth is only 16 and had never shown a dog before he got Deta. It was also done here in Northern California without any long trips. Now Zac is an exceptional handler and has very quickly learned to show GSDs and has incredibly supportive parents. Maryann and Bob Hudspeth have been there every step of the way from the conformation classes Zac and Deta attended to all the shows. But it does prove that a handler is not always necessary to finish a dog. Oh, and I forgot to mention that Deta is just two years old, so this did not take forever for Zac to do. And along the way, Zac trained Deta in obedience, she has one leg on her CD and at the same time Zac accomplished two years of high school in one year with a 4.0 average! Sue Mazzeo ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================