[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AMATEUR FUT. RULES???
- From: "" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, melanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:53:55 -0500
Thank you Nancy for addressing Melissa's concerns. Her points were very
valid. One small thing. Since previous changes were voted on by the Board,
was the change back also approved by the Board? Also, since Melissa didn't
address the 1800.00 donated by the anonymous GSDCA member, I will address
it again. When can we expect the distribution? Will the 2007 winners get it
this year? There are other 2007 futurity/maturity winners both regular and
amateur who have also been wondering.Thank you in advance. Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> [Original Message]
> From: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <melanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 3/26/2008 9:07:09 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AMATEUR FUT. RULES???
>
> Melissa,
> Some of Futurity Committee spent a great deal of time discussing this
very subject. Some breeders thought it "unfair" for a dog to have the
opportunity to win both the Amateur AND the Regular & then there were
those that said they would never take the chance of a Futurity Winner being
defeated in the Amateur. As with all new venues , we have to continually
tweak them until the best formula is reached. The Regular Futurity has
been through changes throughout the years. Some ideas work, some don't.
We are still in the exploration phase with this. This is only the second
year for the Amateur and the Board voted to continue this venue for a
period of 3 years, as a test, after the 3rd year the Board will have to
determine what is best and breeders should continue to express their
opinion so that the Board can respond to the wishes of the majority when
the time comes for a decision.
> When the Amateur was first introduced it was understood this was going to
be trial and error & that we would have to make changes as needed.
Changes have also been adopted for the regular Futurity such as
eligibility to judge, not judging in the Futurity Region for 5 months prior
to that assignment as well as others. I received 3 calls today from those
entered in the Amateur and they are very upbeat about the prospect of
winning and going to the NATIONAL. I only hope we can appeal to novice
and junior people and those that are concerned about the high cost of
showing at Futurities.
> We always welcome suggestions and we like to know the opinion of breeders
for both systems.
> Nancy Harper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa" <melanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:31 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AMATEUR FUT. RULES???
>
>
> I too am curious about when the rules changed for the Amatuer
> futurity/maturity. Seems a little unfair that the dogs who were eligible
to
> compete in both futurites last year were so quickly made no longer
eligible
> for both maturities. I also notice the amatuer winners are not even
> acknowledged on the GSD Reviewed 2007 results page. Aside from handling
> fees, it cost exhibitors just as much to enter and travel to these
> futurities and national finals, yet except for a big, beautiful ribbon
there
> was very little benefit or incentive to continue participating.
>
> JMO!
> Melissa
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx(List)>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:07 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] AMATEUR FUT. RULES???
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Steve and Christine Grainger
> > WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> >
> > Last night I believe a question was posed to the list by "Zane"
inquiring
> > as to when the Am. fut. rules had changed. Good question, so I started
> > scanning the minutes. The Oct.2006 minutes( I think pp8) list the
original
> > rules, they were approved by the Board. However, in Jan of 2007, due to
> > the
> > request of handlers, exhibitors and the like the rules were modified to
> > allow entering both the am. and reg. fut with the same animal. This
change
> > was approved by the Board, according to the minutes. So my question is
> > when
> > did the Board approve to resend the Jan. approval? Also final question,
in
> > the Oct. 2006 minutes( pp10 or so) 1800.00 was donated by an anonymous
> > donor to be allocated for awards in the 2007 fut/mat. Where is the
> > 1800.00..why wasn't it given to the winners since it was supposed to be
> > earmarked for awards? Can we expect to see it given as awards this year?
> > Not trying to put anyone on the carpet here, just wanting a couple of
> > answers. I would think that any change to the Am. fut venue would be
under
> > the two year rule, and that no change would be made w/o Board approval.
> > Perhaps I am missing where this vote was taken. Sincerely, Christine
> >
> >
> >
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