Hi All; Like Kathy said, about Performance Judges is the same with other Judges. I am the Show Coordinator for my AB Club and book the Judges. I try to hire Judges that can do two groups so I can use them both days to save on travel expenses. Some Judges fees are just too high and I try to limit my fees to $350.00 per day, the Perfomance Judges who judge less dogs have high fees also. We run the shows like a business or we would not be able to continue to have shows. We had one Show Chair who almost ruined us in one year my spending $25K on Judges and their expenses!!! We also allow only $35.00 per day for dinner as we supple breakfast and lunch and we pay no incedental expenses, such as dry cleaning, dog sitters etc. As Kathy said, many Judges make a very nice income from Judging and this is brought up by many Delegate Judges since they can not charge a fee, but only expenses. Also to answer Diane, a BIS Judge needs only to have one Group to judge BIS. Cathy Kelstar fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx EarthLink Revolves Around You. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================