I'm going to put words in Randy's mouth when I say the definition of a "good dog" is the dog that most closely meets the GSD Standard. The Standard was carefully crafted so the breed has the structure to gait and to work. The GSD was designed to herd the sheep all day without tiring, keep away the wolves, and keep the shepherd company. If there was a dog who perfectly met the standard (assuming all judges would be fully knowledgable about the standard), the dog would always win. However, there has never been a dog who perfectly meets the Standard, so the differences come in the weight the Judge places on the areas where the dog is lacking, either through personal preference or ignorance. Our Standard is specific about disqualifying faults, serious faults and less serious faults but the relative weight within those isn't covered. If you want a challenge, go through the Standard and see which parts go under those 3 titles. The Standard basically describes a well-tempered dog who covers the most amount of ground with the least amount of steps. "Any fault of gait rather from the front, rear, or side is considered a serious fault". The dog that most closely meets the Standard will not only win in the conformation ring but also have a structural advantage in performance events, particularly in herding and agility. If you don't have a copy of the AKC GSD Standard, you might want to consider getting one. Seeing Banker gait is worth the price and you learn something new every time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx> To: <Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx> Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A good dog is a good dog is a good dog > > In a message dated 4/5/06 6:43:58 PM Central Daylight Time, > Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx writes: > > Another very simple answer - there's more than one good dog, and only > one first place <VBG>! > > Janice > > > In a message dated 4/5/2006 3:07:29 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: >>Simple question. If a good dog is a good dog is a good dog, why won't >>it > win >>under any judge? Why do you have to pick and choose? >> >>- Jackie >> >>Marcato Shepherds >>Where it's about function, not flash >> >>*Simple answer. None of us put the same emphasis on the same things. > Everyone has personal preferences, and we are inclined to have different > opinions > of what is a "good dog". Doris E * >> > > > > > > > To answer the first question that started this thread, a good dog should > and > will be competitive in most of the times shown. Winning some, coming > close, > just depends on other varialbles. Their presence will be known. > > Thats all anyone could hope for, unless your're a cool-aid drinker! > > JMO > Randy > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================