Yes, you are right Mary-Anne. I've had a litter of pups during a time when an additional room was added. Lots of noise, hammering, sawing - the works. I was sort of worried about the noise, but it did not bother the babies. In fact, this was the soundest litter I have had, nothing bothered them, no thunder, low flying airplanes or helicopters. I still have one from this litter and he is a soothing presence to the others. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary-Anne Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:43 AM To: victorysbullseye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 4th of July I HATE IT!!!!! I guess I'm one of the really lucky ones. Neither of my guys is afraid of fireworks or thunderstorms. But then again, I'm outside playing with them and jackpotting them with treats the whole time that the fireworks and storms are on. As far they're concerned, when big noise starts, that's playtime. As an avid dragracer, I can't afford to have dogs that are afraid of noise (jet cars, funny cars, unmuffled race cars or fireworks). From the time they are 2 months old, my dogs go to the track with us and that's playtime. As far as gunshots are concerned, my guys associate them with squirrel and chipmunks as whenever those little pests are around, I take the air gun and shoot at them (I'm not trying to hit them just dissuade them from being around), the dogs figure that's great fun and become totally excited whenever they see a gun or hear a car backfire. I've had 2 dogs in the past that were noise sensitive and I always thought that part of the reason it got so bad was because I babied them, cooing to them, and trying to protect them from storms & noise. With these last two, I've totally changed my strategy and it seems to be working...so far (one is 6, one is 1 year). If that changes in the future, I'll have to change my strategy again. Mary-Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Sullivan" <victorysbullseye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 4th of July I HATE IT!!!!! I totally understand! Bull dose not mind gunshots or the fire work but he freaks when it storms! I bought the D.A.B collar and I can say it dose really help we used to have to knock him out too...I hated that with the collar he comes to me stessed but I tell him to go lay down and he will go lay in the tub..he dose not pace as much. I just got the spray and the plug in I will let you all know if they help better When they stress so it worries the heck out of you. Deb Deb and her Boys Victory's Bullseye,TT.,CGC.,CD,ASCACD. Victory's Dubh Mac Tire, CGC(Wolf) 01/23/05-03/28/2007,lost to PAA/EPI ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================