No one has talked about losing sponsors by going to Purina. I love the site,
and have just determined that I will enjoy the National, but never again show a
dog. It is too far to drive, and too hard to fly a dog these days.
I doubt that the loss of Asgard dogs will make a difference. However, I have
heard from others who feel the same. It used to be a lot easier to fly a dog,
but now we live in different times.
I will adjust.
Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmarc-noreply <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l GSDList
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, May 8, 2015 2:04 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
Once again I disagree! It IS about location because that is how this location
of 3YEARS IN A ROW was "sold" to the membership! I like many many other 'silly'
club members were lead to believe the ST LOUIS site was free and this would
help us with our "money" issues! turns out the site was not free at all! And if
I lived in Mo. I'd still believe that the powers in control had indirectly
mislead us! perhaps the distraction with the "white' dog last year was just
that... A distraction! Then again this post would not exist without Penny K.
And even if the National was at my house this year I could not attend.... But I
do agree with you about one thing! Members need to investigate cuz information
is not free flowing in this club! Ed Hill
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------ Original Message ------
From: Chris S. Kimerer
To: freelist
Sent: May 8, 2015 at 1:17 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
Not from St. Louis but from Kansas City. I have been attending Nationals since
the 90's and have only missed a handful. The discussion was not about the
location but about the cost. I was not born last night either, that is why
instead of taking whats put on this list as truth and facts, I research
minutes, reports and financials. Cuts out some of the bs posted from time to
time.
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels
"where good bloodlines never die"
From: "edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l GSDList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 12:25 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
I was born at night, but it wasn't last night! You sound like you live
in St Louis! Ed Hill
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------ Original Message ------
From: Chris S. Kimerer
To: freelist
Sent: May 8, 2015 at 10:19 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
Not trying to pee on your leg Ed, :) BUT, I don't think it was ever stated as
free by anyone from the Board. I actually attended the board meeting where the
comparisons were presented and the board did the vote, and it was clearly
stated what the cost for the 3 years in a row contract would be. Originally
Purina wanted a 5 year commitment, obviously that was wittled down to 3 years.
So if it was ever touted as being free, it was misconstrued and I don't
remember seeing that. But heck, I don't remember what I had for lunch
yesterday, so perhaps someone did post that back when, who knows.
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels
"where good bloodlines never die"
From: "edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx" <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l GSDList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:12 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
Yes you are correct at times the list is just like the
Internet ( it's actually on the Internet) you can't and shouldn't believe
everything you read! But here's the problem, when the board made the un popular
decision to go to St. Louis for three years ,information came out on this list
that the reason for this is because we'd get the site FREE! I don't know where
this information came from but if it were not true this mis-information should
have been corrected immediately! I think folks in control wanted us to believe
the site was free, why else would the mis-information NOT be corrected? So like
Judge Judy said. " don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining" Ed Hill
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------ Original Message ------
From: Chris S. Kimerer
To: freelist
Sent: May 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger
show
I don't know who ever said it was free! I don't ever remember hearing or
reading that anywhere. What was said is how many of the venues can be done on
the same grounds at no additional cost. There is a huge difference between no
additional cost and free. The contract states all that, everyone should really
read all the information Pam Stoesser puts on the site. The financial reports
are also there, and the proposal from the committee appointed to look at the
financial status of the PC did a financial review and recommendations did an
AWESOME job, and much what was suggested was implemented.
This list is like the Internet, you can't believe everything you read. :)
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels
"where good bloodlines never die"
From: Ellen Borders <ellenborders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Showgsd-l GSDList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
That's awfully expensive for free??
Ellen Borders
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On May 7, 2015, at 1:32 PM, "Chris S. Kimerer" <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "
tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote:
The contract with Purina is published in the Members section on the GSDCA
website and is $9,800 total rental fee for the week of the National. It's
broken down in detail, go to the PC site and you can see the costs.
Hope that helps.
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels
"where good bloodlines never die"
From: Carolyn Martello
<marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Evan Ginsburg' <elg440@xxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 12:19 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2015 Purina Nationals - Sieger show
I thought we were at Purina THREE YEARS
because it was free??
Wonder why we will need "security" for a
"small fee" this year at Purina Farms?
Was it more secure last year?
What is considered a "small fee" after
you've spent a fortune to get there or three
days of hard driving.....?
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
From:On Behalf Of
Redacted sender "ELG440@xxxxxxx" for DMARC
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fwd: 2015 Nationals - Sieger show
I never did get an answer to what we
pay for Purina. Now we are going to pay for parking too?
I never understood why we are there
three years if it isn't a saving.
Evan L.Ginsburg
<reply> Both are at Purina and you are correct.
Keeping costs down are a priority
Parking fee will be charged to pay for security.
It will be a small fee
In a message dated 5/6/2015 7:17:39
P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
One thing that was discussed at the
board meeting in regards to the 2 events be held at Purina at the same time was
there could be parking concerns. Also, think the board decided everyone would
be paying to park this year.
Molly
