[rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 2.8A -restoration, serial numbers

  • From: Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,"rollei list" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:51:36 -0500

Thank you, Jerry. I am not currently receiving any IDCC mail and have not since last Saturday. I will copy this to Charlie.


Marc


At 09:42 AM 11/20/2007, Jerry Laderberg wrote:
>Rick:  What is the serial number of your viewing lens?  Mine is 819134.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry Laderberg" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Internet Directory of Camera Collectors" <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:36 AM
>Subject: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -restoration, serial numbers
>
>
>> Rick:
>>
>> That's quite interesting.  My 2.8A carries serial number 1114165, but the
>> Tessar is number 2,311,236 - 65 examples earlier than yours.  So, all the
>> stories about how the assemblers just grabbed parts out of the bins, sat
>> down at a  bench and put them together without regard to matching numbers
>> are probably accurate.
>>
>> BTW, the paint on mine was very flakey in the same area above the name so
>> I removed it all ( fingernail, no special tool needed) in preparation for
>> painting & found that it looked pretty good " as is" with a little
>> buffing. Consider that.
>>
>> This is the second 2.8A I've had ( the first was terrible cosmetically,
>> but worked well) and I like the results a lot.  These are the 2.8 Tessars
>> the Rollei factory offered to replace free because they were bad ( or is
>> that an urban myth?).   I've tried for about 25 years to get one with a
>> replaced Tessar ( Opton, I think) and/ or a Biometar - equipped model (
>> 2.8B), but without success.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jerry:
>>>
>>> I'll take this opportunity to correct an error in the
>>> camera serial number while I'm at it:
>>>
>>> The camera is serial #1101196, not 1100196.  According
>>> to what appears to be a detailed listing on
>>> www.rolleirepairs.com, the 2.8A began with 1101000
>>> (this is seconded by my 1957 Modern Photography
>>> directory, which also mentions the change to MX synch
>>> at 1201000) and ended with 1204999.
>>>
>>> The lens is a T-coated 8cm 1:2,8 Tessar, #2311301.
>>> The Lens Vade Mecum says that the batch of Rollei
>>> f/2.8 Tessars were numbered between 2300000 and
>>> 3000000, so this falls at the beginning of the series,
>>> both for the camera and the lens.  This number is
>>> extremely early: I have a prewar Super Ikonta A with
>>> Tessar #2325112, and a ~1950 Contax S with Biotar
>>> #3268188, and I had a prewar Automat with Tessar
>>> #2493204 .... so the numbers on the 2.8A's certainly
>>> seem to be out of sequence.  Everything that I have
>>> suggests that the numbers should have reached 2500000
>>> before the war and 3000000 by the end of it.
>>>
>>> rick  :)=
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:17:58 -0500
>>>> From: "Jerry Laderberg" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: Re: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -
>>>> To: "Internet Directory of Camera Collectors"
>>>> <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>>>
>>>> Rick, what is the serial number on the Tessar?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:28 AM
>>>> Subject: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A - a few questions on
>>>> restoration
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I have just acquired a Rolleiflex 2.8A, type 1,
>>>> with a
>>>> > T-coated Carl Zeiss Jena 8.0/2.8 Tessar lens and
>>>> 1-400
>>>> > X-synch Compur Rapid shutter.  It looks like it's
>>>> > going to clean up pretty well, at the moment it's
>>>> all
>>>> > in pieces on my bench but the shutter is running
>>>> well
>>>> > and the lens is clear.
>>>> >
>>>> > The camers is SN 1100196; the first 2.8A,
>>>> according to
>>>> > my sources, was #1100001, so this is #196 in the
>>>> block
>>>> > of numbers... but that same number block also
>>>> applied
>>>> > to the X-synch 3.5 Automat, which was made in much
>>>> > larger numbers, so this might be well under the
>>>> 196th
>>>> > example of the first f/2.8 Rollei.
>>>>
>>>>
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