[rollei_list] Rolleiflex 2.8A -restoration, serial numbers

  • From: "Jerry Laderberg" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "rollei list" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:42:33 -0500

Rick:  What is the serial number of your viewing lens?  Mine is 819134.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Laderberg" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Internet Directory of Camera Collectors" <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -restoration, serial numbers


Rick:

That's quite interesting. My 2.8A carries serial number 1114165, but the Tessar is number 2,311,236 - 65 examples earlier than yours. So, all the stories about how the assemblers just grabbed parts out of the bins, sat down at a bench and put them together without regard to matching numbers are probably accurate.

BTW, the paint on mine was very flakey in the same area above the name so I removed it all ( fingernail, no special tool needed) in preparation for painting & found that it looked pretty good " as is" with a little buffing. Consider that.

This is the second 2.8A I've had ( the first was terrible cosmetically, but worked well) and I like the results a lot. These are the 2.8 Tessars the Rollei factory offered to replace free because they were bad ( or is that an urban myth?). I've tried for about 25 years to get one with a replaced Tessar ( Opton, I think) and/ or a Biometar - equipped model ( 2.8B), but without success.

Good luck.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -


Hi Jerry:

I'll take this opportunity to correct an error in the
camera serial number while I'm at it:

The camera is serial #1101196, not 1100196.  According
to what appears to be a detailed listing on
www.rolleirepairs.com, the 2.8A began with 1101000
(this is seconded by my 1957 Modern Photography
directory, which also mentions the change to MX synch
at 1201000) and ended with 1204999.

The lens is a T-coated 8cm 1:2,8 Tessar, #2311301.
The Lens Vade Mecum says that the batch of Rollei
f/2.8 Tessars were numbered between 2300000 and
3000000, so this falls at the beginning of the series,
both for the camera and the lens.  This number is
extremely early: I have a prewar Super Ikonta A with
Tessar #2325112, and a ~1950 Contax S with Biotar
#3268188, and I had a prewar Automat with Tessar
#2493204 .... so the numbers on the 2.8A's certainly
seem to be out of sequence.  Everything that I have
suggests that the numbers should have reached 2500000
before the war and 3000000 by the end of it.

rick  :)=


Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:17:58 -0500
From: "Jerry Laderberg" <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A -
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Rick, what is the serial number on the Tessar?
Thanks.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Oleson" <rick_oleson@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <idcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: [IDCC] Rolleiflex 2.8A - a few questions on
restoration


>
> I have just acquired a Rolleiflex 2.8A, type 1,
with a
> T-coated Carl Zeiss Jena 8.0/2.8 Tessar lens and
1-400
> X-synch Compur Rapid shutter.  It looks like it's
> going to clean up pretty well, at the moment it's
all
> in pieces on my bench but the shutter is running
well
> and the lens is clear.
>
> The camers is SN 1100196; the first 2.8A,
according to
> my sources, was #1100001, so this is #196 in the
block
> of numbers... but that same number block also
applied
> to the X-synch 3.5 Automat, which was made in much
> larger numbers, so this might be well under the
196th
> example of the first f/2.8 Rollei.



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