[rollei_list] Re: OT - Santoku envy and lousy German (was: "NIH Syndrome" (was: Liquid Lenses))
- From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:30:52 -0800
Peter,
I dunno if I should be thankful to you or not, for including Ardy's
ego inflating febrile maunderings, but thanks.:-)
On the turbine exhaust "problem": A very good friend of mine, Judge
Penick, had the loan of one of the Chrysler turbo cars in the 1960's
I believe. We took it for a few drives including on a rally which
ended in Palm Springs. Exhaust gas heating did not appear to be
of any concern. There was snow on one of the mountain passes
and we did not notice the packed snow melting. He also had it
idling in my driveway, which was asphalt at the time. No problem.
I believe that I have a few Minox pictures of the car and the rally. It
drew quite a bit of attention from the other participants.
Jerry
Peter Kotsinadelis wrote:
> Ardie,
>
> So, sprechen Sie Deutsches?
>
> Peter K
> Der Grieche
>
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:11:01 -0500, Ardeshir Mehta
> <ardeshir@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >=20
> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2005, at 08:12 PM, Peter Kotsinadelis wrote:
> >=20
> > > LOL. Good one.
> >=20
> > I don't know what you think is so good about Jerry's post. Turbines
> > have been used for decades to generate electricity, for instance to
> > propel ships. My idea has to do with the DESIGN of the turbine, which I
> > have not revealed to anyone on the list, and am not about to (seeing as
> > I haven't made the idea public yet): it has nothing to do with the
> > practicality of using turbines for generating electricity. (Jerry likes
> > to think of himself as some kind of an engineer, of course, but we all
> > know that's just Santoku envy.)
> >=20
> > Besides, "Gott sie danken" isn't even good German. (He's been making
> > that same mistake for donkey's years (see
> > <http://www.digistar.com/rollei/2001-03/1144.html>). Jerry would do
> > better to stick to Russian and let others just THINK he doesn't know
> > how to express himself in German, than to open his mouth in German
> > itself, and thereby remove all doubt!
> >=20
> > Cheers.
> >=20
> > +++++
> >=20
> > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:52:03 -0800, Jerry Lehrer
> > > <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ardy,
> > >>
> > >> The more smaller turbines that you pass the exhaust thru, the higher
> > >> will be the back pressure and hence the lower the gas velocity. The
> > >> most efficient setup would be a tuned extractor exhaust downstream of
> > >> the primary turbine.
> > >>
> > >> No free lunch.
> > >>
> > >> I am pleased that I will not be able to read Ardy's response. Gott
> > >> sie danken!
> > >>
> > >> Jerry
> > >>
> > >> Bernard wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> True. My proposal to solve this problem is to pass the exhaust
> > >>>> successively through one or more turbos, like those on ordinary
> > >>>> turbocharged cars, so as to extract the maximum energy from the
> > >>>> heat. Each turbo would be coupled, not to a compressor, but to a
> > >>>> generator, and this would add to the electricity generated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Also, conventional turbine engines are expensive. Mine would be
> > >>>> (relatively) inexpensive.
> > >>>
> > >>> GM made a few of their EV1's using small turbine engines as
> > >>> generators. You may want to do a patent search to see how they dealt
> > >>> with these and other issues.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bernard
> >=20
> >=20
>
> --=20
> Peter K
> =D3=BF=D5=AC
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