Hello Eric, I never claimed to have experience with the art world in any post past or present. I claim to have been trained in a school which considers photography an art. This I am sure encompasses much aesthetic and intellectual snobbery-but that is the nature of the beast. Second, I think that Mapplethorp is considered the master of the square format, both for the aesthetic and the philosophical content of his work-which has been severely psyco-analyized by art critics, even politicians since his work is so controversial. These considerations are aside from the phenomenal sales of his work which I never considered and which Mark R pointed out(thanks). I realize this "high art" approach often puts me at odds with photographers such as yourself, who have well developed and perhaps successful careers in photography. The danger with this kind of internet discourse centers around semantics its use or abuse. I think that we are at cross purposes because we are often talking about different genres, commercial-family album-documentary-fashion etc. Thanks, Marvin. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Goldstein Sent: 08 March 2010 00:01 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: (No From: Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Marvin - You may, but if you have the serious knowledge and experience with the critical art world that you've claimed in the past, you would not be asking. To state that any one artist is at the top cannot be substantiated and is unsupportable... Eric Goldstein -- On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:47 AM, <rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Thanks for your input Eric, may I ask why the statement ludicrous? >> Marvin. --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list