Mr Bigler's Coments on the meaning of "Cranky" amused me. They also brought to mind a poster of Rollei models which I saw on the wall in Nippon Photo Clinic on broadway, when I was bringing in my F3 for service yesterday. What intrigued me was some models of the tlr beginning around the nineteen sixties. These appeared to have a large rectangular base, and a cylindrical protrusion on the side where the crank would be on the camera. I assume that these were motor driven models, but I wonder what was their original use. They seemed as though they were designed to be shot from a fixed location as the whole arrangement seemed far to unwieldy to hand hold. All the best Larry Cuffe --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list