An interesting Rollei info in Prochnow's Voigländer Reports Logically, speaking here about vintage pre-1972 Voigtländer equipment should be 100% off-topic here and therefore banned with the harshest severity. However, having succumbed to temptation of buying the 2 already published Voigtländer Reports (the 3-rd is due for 2007) by one of our favourite gurus, Claus Prochnow, I was pleased to find several historical Rollei-related stories unknown to me... but may be not not you ! __Disclaimer__ : those of you who swear only by post-1981 Rollei-Braunschweig-made cameras & equipment, please close your eyes and let the old guys chat a little ;-) The first story is that there has been a very limited series of R-TLRs fitted with a Voigtländer Skopar lens ! The second story is related to how the ideas of the first R-TLR came. Claus P. has found several Voigtländer patents showing that several ideas that we naturally associate with the Rollei came in fact from Voigtländer where Reinhold Heidecke had been an employee for 20 years. the different ides are : saving space by putting film rolls in the space left empty in a rectangular box, and coupling a taking lens with a viewing lens, with or without a reflex mirror. Before WWI there was a twin lens non reflex (TLNR, we should create the acronym !!) Voigtländer plate camera and the Voigtländer stereoflektoskop is so close to a Rollei stereo camera or, later, to a TLR in its viewing/focusing principle that I wonder how F&H could be protected by a special patent ! So the subtle thing is : did actually Heidecke propose the TLR design to Voigtländer before resigning and founding his company ? (this is suggested by some reading on the 'net, I am sceptical) What were actually the claims in patents that allowed the young F&H company to start without infringing voigtländer's patents ? It seems that Voigtländer's Brilliant could be marketed without infringing F&H patents simply because there was no ground glass in the viewer, but conversely, how did F&H could manage not to infringe prior Voigtländer's patents ? A fascinating story !! -- Emmanuel BIGLER <bigler@xxxxxxxx> --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list