Yes -- pretty good, too. Though you say "last" type and mine is wartime (uncoated). PJ Nebergall On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 12:32:07 +0800 "Marvin Wallace" <Marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Does anyone have any experience with the Zeiss Super Ikonta, the 6x6 last type. How does the Tessar fare against Rollei lenses etc? From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:13 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: why I'm not digital -( just for interest) At 09:44 PM 4/14/2006 -0400, Marc wrote: Classical music is one thing, as this was recorded at least from the early 1950's on very high-fidelity gear and almost always in stereo, and the pressings were almost always of like quality. But popular music, even when made with really good masters, was just puked out on cheap 45-rpm disks with little regard for quality. The first ten years of the Digital Revolution saw a bunch of older R&R stuff coming out on digitally remastered CD's which blow the socks off even the original LP's. I know. I've got stacks of this stuff. And Geza Anda's performance of Mozart's 21st Piano Concerto DOES sound better on the DG vinyl disk than on the tapes or CD's made from the same master. Marc The one thing you can be sure of, with regard to DVD's, is that there is a known dynamic range and granularity, no hiss, no degradation with time (if not seriously damaged), and if you get a properly made DDD CD it's going to be predictably good, and if it's not good, it won't get any worse with time. My Vette system seemed to have more dynamic range than the one in the SL, but in the Vette, the 1812 was incredible with 200 watts in the car. I have never succeeded in counting the cannon shots, I think it's 11 or 13, and may even vary by conductor. I know that during a live concert here at Mission Bay the number was closer to 11 than 13. Done with 5 cannons as I recall. I was just cleaning out some old stuff and came across replacement needles and cartridges, cleaning liquid, antistatic liquid and wipes, non-static jacket liners, etc. I miss vinyl pressings very little, if even that much :-\ . Don Williams La Jolla, CA