Are we speaking in ongoing forever generalities or is anyone specifically mentioning a specific normal focal length lens which has a retrofocal design? And if not why not? And how can a lens be a "semi" retrofocal design? If a retrofocal design means in effect a telescope flipped around how can you semi flip it around? Such a design seems extreme. You take an element or two out of it and call it "semi". I'm not clicking with it. mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mark William Rabiner --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list