Gentlemen: There is only one way to settle this for sure. I propose that we cross a Rollei T with a Rollei GX. By carefully observing the offspring, we should be able to determine the extent to which Rollei F genes play a role. Not being a geneticist, I leave the mathematic ratios to those who know these things. But,if no Rollei F characteristics are obvious in the first generation, we can always cross members of the first generation with each other. Again, i will leave the ratios to those that understand these things. I should think, however, that even a single first or second generation Rollei T with a Rollei F winding mechanism should prove fairly conclusive. Of course, if no subsequent Rollei offspring demonstrate a Rollei F auto film mechanism, that would be proff too, no? My one suggestion would be to cross an early gray Rollei T rather than a later one. But there is one problem I can not think through on my own; for the Rollei F.....should we use a 2.8 or a 3.5? It occurs to me that we might try cross breeding both with a Rollei T (3.5) just to see if there is a variation. There is one more concern--which may be nothing at all. Do you know of a good, accurate and reliable Rollei Breeding Station whose results we can all trust? Isn't anyone going to offer to help me clean out my downspouts?? Regards, Jerry F. Regards, Jerry F. --- Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes Peter, as I wrote in my first post on this issue, > you integrate those Rollei users, enthusisast and > collectors group that believe that the GX/FX is a > modified T; and yes, I say that you are not right till > you or someone else could give a convincing technical > explanation about why the GX/FX camera is more close > to the T than to the F. I have written some of the > technical and historical reasons the FX is more close > to F than to T model. If you or someone else have > solid technical reasons to support your opinion I'll > hear them, of course. > > All the best > Carlos > --- "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: > > > Hi Douglas, > > > > The T was something of a stripped down Rollei F that > > basically targeted the > > same market as the earlier Rolleicord. The T was > > named for Theodore Uhl, a > > choice of names that allegedly got him fired when > > management at Rollei found > > out he named the camera after himself. > > I have a Rollei T and it is among my favorites. What > > it lacks is 220 > > capability and multiple exposure. But 220 and > > Multi-exposure were more for > > pros, and this camera was designed for the amateur > > and advanced amateur > > market. The T came with a Zeiss Tessar or Schneider > > Xenar F3.5 taking lens. > > It was lighter that the standard Rollei F and had > > the ability to use a 6 x > > 4.5cm adapter (an adapter the more expensive models > > could not use). Like the > > F it could use the Rolleikin for 35mm film, and had > > a removable hood, so you > > could use a prism in place of the Waist Level > > Finder. > > As someone already pointed out, the F TLRs of the > > 60s and 70s were different > > bodies than the T. The newer FX and GX bodies are > > based on the T as the > > tooling for the previous Fs was not available. > > Personally, it is my opinion > > that this was smarter idea since it was less costly > > to use a T chassis. Rest > > assured someone will disagree with me here and tell > > me I am wrong even > > though I state this is just an opinion. ;-) > > > > Peter K > > > > > > On 6/13/06, Douglas Nygren <dnygr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > I have a Rollei and have not paid much attention > > to bodies, etc. It > > > performs well. > > > > > > What is a T body? An F body? The GX, FX are recent > > vintage cameras, > > > right? > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Correo Yahoo! > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! > ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list