[roc-chat] Re: March Launch
- From: Kurt Gugisberg <kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:03:32 -0800
Not a bad idea Robert. However, most people don't go back to the pad area
to dump there motor casings. The area around the pads is usually picked up
anyway at the end of the day. If we could get people to pick up igniter
wires and motor casings that they see laying around, that would help. They
can take it back to their camps or stick it in their pockets. Most people
won't do that however. We have found that the best way to keep the lake
bed clean is to have everyone pick up and and pack out their own trash *and*
pick up anything they see on the ground. It is real easy to walk by stuff
and think someone else will pick it up but if everyone did that the lake
bed would be a mess. So if everyone was conscious of the trash around them
and picked up...problem solved.
Kurt
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Robert Patrick Lees <rlees001@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> My dad had an Idea while we were at the launch that I think could be
> beneficial. We should attach a paint can or a coffee can to the low power
> launch stand and to the continuity box for the larger pads. That way,
> people have a place to put spent igniters, motor casings, etc. when they're
> setting up their rockets. It wont cost the club much, and people my littler
> less because the can will make it more convenient.
>
> I have some extra cans we can use if that's an issue, and to attach we
> only need to drill some holes in the can and use some tie-straps.
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:24 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I think we should be meticulous about our area. Sometimes we’ll have
>> to pick up after others, but that’s the way it goes. Also, constant
>> reminding about keeping control of trash and packing it out.
>> This isn’t intended to be an extension of the anti-group thing, but
>> groups tend to leave more debris if they don’t have leaders that strictly
>> enforce no-trace.
>>
>> Keep in mind that if BLM starts to see blowing trash or lots of waste
>> along the road they will ask for wind fencing to catch blowing trash at
>> events and this is a real big hassle.
>>
>> Richard Dierking
>>
>> *From:* Kurt Gugisberg <kurtgug@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:33 PM
>> *To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> A number of years ago we did get credit from the BLM for cleaning up the
>> lake. If I recall correctly we had a clean up party out there that was
>> attended by the BLM. Later, in the mail, I received a certificate of
>> appreciation from them. I used to have it on my wall. Not sure where it
>> is now. I think we only did that once but it made a big impression on the
>> BLM folk at the time. I always try to pick up trash when I am walking
>> around or if I drive by something. Once there was an incident where some
>> dumped a truck load of bulky trash out there. The club members were very
>> good about picking up an item or two every launch until the only thing left
>> was a king size mattress that no one was willing to haul out. It sat there
>> for the longest time. Maybe some one did pick it up finally.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Adrian P. Bailey <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> After Rocstock we found a huge pile of debris from what appeared to be a
>>> fireworks party. Launch tubes, spent fireworks and a few dozen beer bottles
>>> and cans. All left there. So sad.
>>>
>>> We cleaned it up. ROC should get credit for the cleanup work the members
>>> do, above and beyond what is related to an event.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: A Clear Choice Pool and Spa Service <accvendor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date:02/16/2015 3:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: March Launch
>>>
>>> Maybe making regular announcement on the PA about picking something up
>>> every time you load your rocket and pick something up as you recover would
>>> help. When we arrived Saturday a.m. we noticed a large area that was full
>>> of broken glass. We did our best to pick up most of it, we didn’t have the
>>> correct tools or gloves to do it completely. But I added that to our Lake
>>> gear for next time. As many have posted that the setup and teardown went
>>> pretty smooth as many were helping this time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lance Sada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mitch Barrie
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 11:05 AM
>>> *To:* roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* [roc-chat] Re: March Launch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:48 AM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Keeping the lakebed clean at our launch site is very important to
>>> continuing our BLM permit. * We need to encourage people to clean up
>>> their area before they leave and even pick-up a little more around their
>>> area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On that point, my partner and I found quite a lot of spent motors
>>> littering the dry lake during relatively short walks with the dog (mostly
>>> to the SW of the launch area). You can't really police that, but perhaps
>>> participants need to be reminded that it's bad form to pull the motor from
>>> a recovered rocket and drop it on the ground before heading back.
>>>
>>> One thing we learned in the 1960s and 1970s is that people need to be
>>> trained not to litter. It doesn't seem to come naturally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mitch
>>>
>>
>>
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