Thank you Mike!
After reading the description, I can’t stop laughing. “Just waiting to be
unleashed outside.” And, also says “Recommended for outdoor use.” OMG,
really! Wow, on those W days, we could just hold the launch inside. :-)
Also, it has three modes of altitude with the highest 200’. But, can be
launched like 50 times on a charge. So….
Looks like the Board does have something to consider. It’s not RC.
Interesting.
On Feb 8, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Mike Ostby <mikeostby@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Feb 5, 2018 2:58 PM, "Richard Dierking" <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Thank you David. Yeah, again, I don’t wish to encourage any illegal
behavior. Also, people should note that ROC has specific rules about RC
aircraft at launches.
So, I’ve been reading about companies such as Uber planning for air taxi’s.
That’s going to be interesting, because what would the ceiling be if there
was a passenger but no pilot? This is a cool subject, and creates many
questions.
I’m just considering different types of recovery systems lately; even some
wild ones. Particularly for high alt flights (<50K’). I was reasoning that
if something could propel a rocket up, then it should be able to slow it for
landing. Again, just tossing it around.
How about a Mylar balloon that would inflate at apogee (again, high alt) with
the shock cord attached to the aft end of the rocket. At high alt the
balloon would be fully inflated providing the most surface area for drag.
Then the balloon would deflate on the descent so the velocity would be
steady. But, might be better to have something that would have high velocity
descent and slow down close to main deployment. I’m kind of working on
something like that now.
On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:49 PM, David Smith <davew6dps@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:davew6dps@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What you are describing would be subject FAA regulations, just as any other
powered free-flight aircraft.
You should look into AMA membership and find a local model aircraft club,
rather than try to imagine a grey area that actually does not exist.
Rocket launched gliders conflate things, but are addressed by NAR rules. A
free-flight aircraft launched at a NAR/TRA would simply be in the wrong
place.
The interesting question is powered recovery for a rocket. That would be an
interesting process to discuss.
Dave Smith
NAR 78668/TRA 15803 L2
Amateur Extra, W6DPS
On Feb 5, 2018 6:47 AM, "Richard Dierking" <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:applerocketry@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Just speaking of capability (because I don’t wish to encourage anyone to do
something illegal), the higher-end commercial quadcopters have ceilings that
can be set up to 10,000m. I can’t find anything specifically stating what
the ceiling is. Seems like this specification is avoided.
But, what I suggested was not RC. Which is kind of funny, because that
would probably make it a safer flight. Keep in mind that the 400’ maximum
for RC is to provide the 100’ buffer to the lower limit of 500’ for manned
aircraft, and ROC’s waiver for unmanned rockets goes higher than 400’. So,
what’s better, going over 400’ and being in control or not being in control?
Yeah, always better to be out of control. LOL
Anyway, the whole VTOL electric aircraft topic is really interesting and
I’ve been doing some research on the subject. But, it’s developing quickly
with new entries all the time. I would like to go OT if others were
interested because I have more questions every time I read about some new
venture into this market. I have identified 3 major obstacles to the use of
this technology btw.
Richard
