Hey Roy, I no longer have them, though they'd prob not work with 6, they were create back on reason2.5. I did use sighted assistance to do cable routing, I started doing an hsc project for dragging and dropping etc, but since I dropped reason, the project went with it. Sorry. Let me know how you fair with Reason6 though. What OS/platform are you on? Regards, D!J!X! -----Original Message----- From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roy Shtupler Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:48 PM To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [realmusicians] Re: prayers for hospital visit and a little update hi DJX am now working with Reason 6 , also trying out ways of rewiring things. have you still got these templates? did you use sighted assistance when creating them? thanks a bunch Roy. http://elephant-dolphin.bandcamp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:59 AM Subject: [realmusicians] Re: prayers for hospital visit and a little update >I agree, if you use and own many DXI synths, you might wanna stick to 32bit > OS, whether it's xp or 7. > I've always used vst for my work, so that helped my transition. > There is a way of getting dx plugs to show up as vst's, not sure how well > it > works though; I remember reading about it on the cw forums a while back > this > year. > > Regarding reason, I use to use it for years, many projects, I had > templates > and such done for wiring stuff and different synths, but it was always > unstable, would sometimes crash, sometimes it wouldn't open though sonar > was > calling to it, and it was just a pain to setup. > After awhile I determine that because of accessibility and the hassles, it > wasn't worth it, I was moving to better things anyways, the kick came when > hypersonic, my motif, and then omnisphere came along, and a few other > plugs > that I use for my hip hop stuff. > > Propellerheads themselves are not really to interested in accessibility, > from what I read somebody from there is interested, because of a school > that > wants to start teaching it but it must be able to teach a blind student. > It's the same story iZotope gave us, we're all on the beta team, but > nothing's been done since the first few releases last year! > > But you're right, the audio world is one of those, where the saying truly > applies, if it aint broke, don't fix it; if it works for now, don't > upgrade! > Lol. > > Regards, D!J!X! > > -----Original Message----- > From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:35 PM > To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [realmusicians] Re: prayers for hospital visit and a little > update > > Yes, i must give omnisphere a go, i mastered something Greg Bradon did > with > omnisphere, and that thing has some nice sounds in it. > > I do like the slice management and drum regeneration stuff in reason, but > your right, all that stuff can be re-created in sonar, you just have to > roll > your own, like sending different eq bands of a synth to diferent buses and > affecting each part differently. > > the little I've done with rewire worked ok for me, didn't crash, but i > haven't done it long enough to really comment. > > the main reason I'm kind of interested in reason now is that they seem to > be > giving a nod to access, and wanting our input and well, we'll see how it > goes, we've heard that story before haven't we? > > I need to make myself work in win7 more, but I just don't wan to trust > projects to it yet, since I tend to use lots of old plugs as well as new > ones, and is really weird, you know with old soundforge 7 the dxi noise > reduction will work with w7 but usually normal 32 bit dxi stuff won't > work? > > I think w8 is trying to be a mac clone. > > If someone would write a good wrapper for dxi plugs for w7, I'd probably > switch and try working with it all the time. > > but i like my rx loops and my sound fonts, and older plugs and as long as > everything will work with xp, I'll take her just a little furtherdown the > road, > > When I checked a couple months ago xp was still the most popular os on the > planet, that's changing slowly of course, because most folks don't buy > custom machines like we do but buy off the shelf pre-loaded and of course > they're going to have the latest stuf they're trying to sell on it. > > We've got a couple more years on xp probably. > > YOu know all the new driver technology like wasapi and waves rt and such > doesn't seem like the audio interface folks are adopting those standards > too > quickly, it's still asio and wdm, that was the big grab when xp came > around. > > But specialty stuff is always very conservative and so are corporations, > they are the last to adopt massive changes, and don't want to upgrade lots > of machines for lots of expense until they have to. > > YOu know i don't know why software vendors don't jus keep selling > everything > they ever made, even if they have to drop support for some things > eventually. > > Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go buy a legit copy of an older package > instead of borrowing it someplace because you couldn't find it anymore? > > Seems pretty sily to me. > > but hey, that's just how it goes. > > > At 03:06 PM 11/12/2011, you wrote: >>Well vista's kernel was more of the rewrite, yes windows7 is just an >>improved vista, what vista should have always been. >>Windows8 will be more of a mess, seeing as it's trying to cover all >>sorts of platforms and systems, from the mainstream pc CPU, to the >>mobile processors, the tablets etc. >>They're making lots of changes, which while some are good, others are >>probably a step backwards. >>If history teaches something us about ms though, every other OS is an >>epic fail; hope windows8 isn't one of those... Most of us think xp >>good, vista bad, win7 good... >>Not sure how all these new things like desktop apps and the fact that >>most of it uses javascript and html5 and web tools will work, it could >>be a potential mess... >>But then again, things must move forward and improve... >> >>Not sure on the screen reader front, I mainly use jaws12 with win7, >>haven't really had probs there either, well nothing that can't be blame >>on fs's lack of inovation and true "upgrade." >> >>As for reason, been using it with rewire since 2.5, but about a year >>ago I dropped reason (rewire has always been to unstable and buggy), >>and actually found replacement for in omnisphere; what a synth! >>Played with reason6, but not impressed, same stuff is still mainly >>there, the biggest selling point from 4-5 is the addition of audio >>recording and the long overdue 64bit addition. >>I did rewire on 64bit, but no improvement there either, still unstable >>(IMO), so nothing to be had... >> >>Regards, D!J!X! >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle >>Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:58 PM >>To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [realmusicians] Re: prayers for hospital visit and a little >>update >> >>Well, yes, you have a valid point especially with the 64 bit native >>stuff, but I was speaking in reference to 98 being more or less a dos >>shell to xp, and there is really no nt stuff in 98 but there is nt stuff >>in > w7. >>and xp so that's why I said they were closer. >> >>I've heard professionals say that w7 is more or less vista fixed up >>better and I've heard it's a complete re-write, so hard to say on that >>one. >> >>The reason I'm thinking w8 might be a good thing is leaning towards the >>bios going away, which needed to happen for years, those hand off >>routines between real mode and windows are the reason we can't easily >>just grab our drives and go to anybody's system running windows, and >>share production environments, well, one of the main reasons anyway, >>since there is so much differing hardware in windows and the mac stuff, >>is more controled in the hardware. >> >>No, I'm not about to go buy a protools rig and dump my sonar, not this >>year anyway. >> >>Glad you've had good experiences with w7, and probably for sighted >>users, it's a lot better, but i think with screen-reader users, >>especially with window-eyes right now, the w7 experience is a problem, >>I have had lots of issues with my students trying to run w7 >>64 bit and window-eyes, botched installs, speech going away, and just >>weird stuff. >> >>I know they're working on it, and I've played with 32 bit w7 a bit, but >>I kind of don't see the point because I don't gain much, and I still >>loose some stuff, where with xp,k old as it is will still be a good >>choice for a couple of generations of machines more, and it runs >>everything old and new with the most stability. >> >>If you need to load up huge sample libraries and disk streaming isn't >>fast enough, then by all means, w7 64 bit. >> >>I have all three, and I use both jaws, window-eyes and nvda, and xp for >>my needs, and that's running lots of plugs and tracks still gives me >>the best experience on my hardware. >> >>Mind you, although i use jaws for some things, and I really dig the new >>ocr feature, I'm running window-eyes most of the time because I like >>it's exploration features and unless I have to arm and manipulate a lot >>of tracks at once, I tend to use window-eyes just because it's what I >>like, and I like my ahk scripts better than some of the hotspot clicker >>stuff especially for sessiondrummer 3 and jaws kind of gets in the way >>with it's keyboard driver to those scripts sometimes. >> >>But to it's credit jaws seems to be more stable with w7 64 but I'm >>stubborn and will probably hang with xp as long as i can until the >>hardware issues get too hairy, my mackie onyx 1640i works great on all >>platforms, haven't had firewire issues. >>I've got something strange going on right now where the sonar reg >>cwaccess window just isn't working for my 32 bit w7 drive, I may try >>and install it again and see if it's just something that went weird in >>the install, but right now, got too much work going on, but I have the >>feeling windows 8 may be a winner. >> >>If ms follows it's tread of doing one good os and a dud and then a good >>one, >>w8 with efi may make a lot of things run better. >> >>but then we'll need new machines so they're going to have to support >>the bios for a long time yet, since these kinds of legacy machines will >>be around for a long time. >> >>Now talking about something I'm completely impressed with because it's >>free and litle and out performs the big guys on many tasks is nvda. >> >>If there was only a way to do precise navigation with the mouse pixel >>by pixel or make it work with sonar, Gord said he'sd had some success >>with python but I never could get anything going, granted I haven't >>tried that hard. >> >>But we're kind of at a crossroads with everything right now what with >>x1 not really being ready for us, and reaper being too under featured >>and undocumented, and protools in development, I guess it's anybody's >>guess wha the next tools will be. >> >>Vic seems to be enchanted with the iphone ipad stuff, but I'm not >>ready to go there yet. >> >> >>Now have you messed with reason yet? >> >>Even with limited access and using rewire with sonar, just getting at >>the synth patches alone is fun. >> >>Again, xp worked great, those trying to do it with w7 had trouble. >> >>I just need to figure out how to access the multiple rewire channels so >>I don't have to just dump down my mixes and re-inserting reason again >>and again since you can't have more than one instance of rewire for >>reason at a time. >> >>all that being said, I'm supprised at the old stuff that does work well >>on w7, like the old prisey cd burner, old versions of soundforge, and >>narrator even in w7 will read things that window-eyes or jaws won't >>isn't that interesting? >> >>It certainly is helpful in getting your butt out of trouble when either >>jaws or window-eyes quits speaking. >> >>Nvda is good for that too. >> >> >>At 10:36 AM 11/12/2011, you wrote: >> >I begg to differ Chris, windows 9x and xp were a year or so apart in >> >technology, xp and 7 are over 5 years apart, and not only that, the >> >amount of technology improvements that happened through that time was >> >greater than the leep from 9x to nt based systems. >> >This is why a kernel rewrite was in store. >> > >> >That's where most problems came in, kernel rewrites will always be a >> >hurtle, and will sometimes mean leaving certain things behind to >> >improve and introduce others. >> > >> >Most problems could be related to folks wanting to use 64bit as >> >oppose to 32, but that platform change will bring issues whether you >> >are using xp, vist or 7, it's a whole different platform. >> >If you want to start working with win7, start with 32bit, and then >> >move on from there once you are use to it. >> >I don't mean use 32bit programs on 64bit, I mean run a native 32bit >> >version of win7. Some stuff will not work still, but quite a bit will. >> >Don't forget all the tweaks and other things that we have available >> >to make >>things work. >> > >> >Now, I'm not claiming that win7 is the best thing ever, it has its >> >bugs and issues, just like xp did, and just like every other >> >microsoft software did, but it is quite an improvement. >> >I've been using and tweaking it since its beta days, and I've yet to >> >have any major problems with it; I've built quite a few daws on win7, >> >and regular home/office systems, and haven't had any complaints yet. >> >The biggest thing in my case was having to use legacy firewire >> >drivers instad for my focusrite saffire pro40; a problem yes, but it >> >has a workaround. We all know microsoft hasn't really got this >> >firewire thing down anyways; but why should they, it's a mac product >> >lol. >> > >> >But anyways, I just wanted to bring up a few points in favor of >> >moving forward (not saying you're wrong or that your points aren't >> >valid), but to present both sides of the story, so that newcomers or >> >average readers on these lists/forums can see both sides and choose. >> >At the end of the day, windows7, xp, 98, mac or linux, whatever >> >you're using, if it works, that's all that matters! >> > >> >But XP's life support will end soon (if they don't change it again), >> >and we'll need somewhere else to go; I've seen windows8, holding my >> >cards on it, though, it doesn't convince me yet. >> > >> >Just my humble opinion, D!J!X! >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle >> >Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:38 AM >> >To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Subject: [realmusicians] Re: prayers for hospital visit and a little >> >update >> > >> >I heard a preview alpha demo of windows 8 done by someone and even >> >narrator is better. >> > >> >Lord's I hope you eventually get some situation where you can get >> >back to doing some of this studio stuff. >> > >> >That's got to be such a bummer. >> > >> >Well, you ain't missing much by giving w7 a miss, except a lot of >>headaches. >> > >> >Others may be doing better, and I know it's better tech in the way of >> >addressing more memory and such, but it's broken a lot of tools. >> > >> >It's weird, there was a huge technology change between 98 and xp and >> >of course there are always growing pains but I never saw more >> >problems and hardware abandoned type of stuff between xp and w7 even >> >though those technologies are closer together. >> > >> >And our screenreaders just exaserbate the problem. >> > >> >Well, that's encouraging about ms and the guys, to have a real way in >> >instead of having to hack around. >> > >> >I've read a little about ui and if it's something adopted widely by >> >the industry, well, that could make things better for us. >> > >> >Let's hope it really happens. >> > >> >I understand that all the ms tools development tools use it, the big >> >problem is that many of the vendors want to use cross platform tools, >> >and much of that stuff is access unfriendly. >> > >> >They don't want to have to do the work twice if they're supporting >> >mac and such can't blame them. >> > >> >But I guess we'll just have to see. >> > >> >Blessings. >> > >> >Stephie is home and resting, she's sore, but she's home now and I can >> >look after her. >> > >> >Don't know if these botox injections they did more aggressive ones in >> >my neck and head this time, are going to work, but they may take a >> >while. >> > >> >My head is sore this morning 'grin'. >> > >> >Speaking of musical stuff again, I was trying to use hotspot to get a >> >plug-in to be more accessible, and I got her done, but I can't export >> >spots properly. >> > >> >Aaron says he can't duplicate the problem, but that seems to be the >> >big show stopper with hs, everything seems to work reasonably well >> >now except importing and exporting. >> > >> >At least for me. >> > >> >I always though a multi-file approach to hs would have been better, >> >instead of shoving everything in to one file. >> > >> >I don't know what that would have intailed from a programming >> >perspective, but snowy does it this way. >> > >> >I guess it's 6 of one half a dozen of another because parsing files >> >is pretty standard stuff anyway, but maybe it would have allayed some >> >export problems. >> > >> >Just a thought. >> > >> >I need to revisit that at some point. >> > >> >Have a great morning. >> > >> > >> >At 09:32 PM 11/11/2011, you wrote: >> > >Hey Chris, >> > > >> > >Yeah, Win 7 is iffy at best. Not getting the dual boot option with >> > >XP on my system was a big mistake. I decided not to because I >> > >figured I'd cling to XP and never get around to tackling the hassle of > a new OS. >> > >And I was under the impression that addressing the audio issues was >> > >a big part of SP1. Oh well. Live and learn. >> > > >> > >I haven't tried the X1 script because I didn't upgrade Sonar since >> > >my studio was trashed. Even after spending a fortune to have a huge >> > >amount of work done and having the contractors tell me that there >> > >was absolutely no way in hell another drop of water could ever get >> > >in I had water coming in about 3 weeks later; the first time we had >> > >a heavy wind-driven rain after all the work was done. It's not >> > >much, and it's actually manageable with a dehumidifier, but I've >> > >come to just hate that space, odd as it sounds, after hauling all >> > >my gear up and down for the last several years. Now I'm trying to >> > >talk myself into selling most of the gear I have racked and stacked >> > >and packed all >>over the house. >> > >Nothing like a bedroom closet full of drums and a sun room with 20 >> > >grand worth of gear boxed up and ready to ship. Groan. >> > > >> > >Yeah, I've been meaning to give NVDA a whirl myself. I just never >> > >seem to get around to it. I battled with LightScribe discs a few >> > >years ago and it was kind of a crap shoot whether I'd get what I >> > >expected >>or not. >> > >But I imagine the program has changed and there are probably >> > >different programs out there today. I'm glad it's working well for >> > >you. And I'm glad the mackie is too. I'd be tempted if I had >> > >anything I could do with it. >> > > >> > >I don't know much about Windows 8 other than that Doug and Ron have >> > >been spending a lot of time at Microsoft for quite a while now >> > >working on it through the development cycle. And according to them >> > >Microsoft seems to actually be trying to make it much more >> > >accessible right from the get-go. Of course they've kind of forced >> > >their own hand on that front because Windows 8 will use direct 2D >> > >rendering, which will in turn make every existing screen-reader >> > >absolutely blind to >>everything. >> > >But the last time Doug returned from a week at Microsoft he was >> > >very excited about the way in which they designed the hook for >> > >screen-readers. So, knock on wood, we might actually finally have a >> > >very fast and accurate hook into the operating system. And UIA >> > >pretty much takes the accessibility issue out of lazy and/or >> > >ignorant developers hands by incorporating MSAA like hooks into >> > >everything, only better in that UIA will provide much more detailed >> > >information about controls and windows. Of course I'm sure there >> > >will be the usual growing pains. So only time will tell. >> > > >> > >Regards, >> > >Tom >> > > >> > >On 11/9/2011 4:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote: >> > >>Ah, a much missed voice. >> > >> >> > >>I need to call you soon, and just chew the fat. >> > >> >> > >>And i hope things are going ok on the beta team. >> > >> >> > >>I wrote gwmicro a private email voiceing my concerns about w7 >> > >>stability and they said they were working on it. >> > >> >> > >>And there are beginning scripts for x1 have you tried them yet? >> > >> >> > >>I hope that keeps on being developed. >> > >> >> > >>I'm still using xp just because it works so well on everything old >> > >>and new, and only venture in to w7 for my students who need help > there. >> > >> >> > >>I haven't trusted any of my projects to w7 yet though. >> > >> >> > >>the ocr on jaws 13 is bitchin', >> > >>and nvda that free little reader is really cool, it'll read things >> > >>the bog boys won't touch. >> > >> >> > >>I've been using it for my lightscribe labels and such, I can >> > >>actually do some simple printing for people now without help, >> > >>we've gota dedicated machine in the front room for folks who want >> > >>to play lightscribe artists 'grin'. >> > >> >> > >>Rest assured, our faith and praises are always weelcome on this list. >> > >> >> > >>YOu know, I compromised and didn't go with a control surface and >> > >>got the mackie onyx 1640i a true analog board but with firewire >> > >>sends and returns on each channel, man what a sweet board. >> > >> >> > >>Real analog goodness and the convenience of digital. >> > >> >> > >>Couldn't ask for anything better, except maybe a footswitch for my >> > >>talk back, but i use the talkback on my headphone amp anyway, but >> > >>man, is it easy to caress a sound 90 percent of the way there in a >> > >>hurry and still have the ability to automate or do extra whatever >> > >>in he >>box too. >> > >> >> > >>And absolutely no menus, what little control pannel there is is >> > >>very accessible for setting asio buffer size and such. >> > >> >> > >>hey, since >> > >>the bios is going away finally with windows heading toward w8, i >> > >>wonder if we'll get talking installs like the mac has? >> > >> >> > >>I hope the flooding hasn't rered it's ugly head again at your house. >> > >> >> > >>We had to jack hammer the whole basement and put in new poop pipe, >> > >>and we put in a back flow valve so hopefully this time is things >> > >>back up with the city, we won't get a lot in the basement. >> > >> >> > >>Yuck. >> > >> >> > >>And we had to put a new roof on this year too. >> > >> >> > >>Always something, but god's been good and we've even managed to >> > >>double up some payments on the principal on the loan, so we're >> > >>gonna get this off our backs as quick as possible. >> > >> >> > >>Sonar 8.5 3 is still the sweet spot. >> > >> >> > >>I haven't made any real significant progress as a baby programmer >> > >>'grin', but the little skills I do have sure help to quickly whip >> > >>up a macro to hit a button or so on a synth or what ever. >> > >> >> > >>Speaking from your great knowledge as a programmer, how easy would >> > >>it be to integrat ocr with wineyes? >> > >> >> > >>It's amazing, I tried it with a familiar plug and it showed up >> > >>everything, the menu states, even stuff that hotspot clicker >> > >>wouldn't do, I think every screen-reader aught to have this feature? >> > >> >> > >>Ocr that sun of a gun and then present it so you can click on >> > >>whateer and even with window-eyes very flaky w7 behavior, it still >> > >>beats jaws for exploration with the mouse feaures. >> > >> >> > >>Atleast without jumping through a bunch of hoops. >> > >> >> > >>And it's weird because stuff that talks in xp doesn't talk in w7 >> > >>and narrator even in w7 will rad stuff window-eyes won't. >> > >> >> > >>I guess it's those different video driver modes, dcm versus mirror >> > >>versus ui. >> > >> >> > >>I just know enough about that stuff to be very dangerous. >> > >> >> > >>Well, off to la la land, they gave me morphine a plenty and stuck >> > >>needles in my head and neck today and i think about 12 hours of >> > >>sleep are called for. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>At 03:29 AM 11/9/2011, you wrote: >> > >>>Hey Chris, >> > >>> >> > >>>Good to hear from you. I've been out of touch for too long. >> > >>> >> > >>>I'm glad to hear so much is going well with your studio, >> > >>>students, your own music, and still having the drive to take up new > instruments. >> > >>>It all sounds wonderful. And I can't wait to hear your new album. >> > >>>I wish you the best of luck with everything. >> > >>> >> > >>>And regarding Stephie's and your health concerns? You know my >> > >>>prayers are with the both of you. I don't mean to insinuate >> > >>>spiritual bribery, mind you, but I'll toss my two extra sense >> > >>>worth in with our loving Lord. grin. >> > >>> >> > >>>Wishing the two of you the love and joy of each other, your >> > >>>faith, and your music. And I'm thanking God that I can write this >> > >>>without being crusified; pun intended. >> > >>> >> > >>>God speed, >> > >>>Tom >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>On 11/9/2011 1:20 AM, Chris Belle wrote: >> > >>>>haven't posted here for a while, trying to be a good citizen and >> > >>>>help the most folks by staying on the mag, but what with several >> > >>>>album projects going right now, my wife and I both having >> > >>>>medical procedures, and my load of students, I've decided to get >> > >>>>off midimag and stay off for a while. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>So Tom, Sandy, Ramy, I haven't even checked who all is here, >> > >>>>Meagan, Omar, Ross, Roy, I'll be putting a little more energy >> > >>>>here, and of course the folks that seem to take great delight in >> > >>>>throwing rocks at me aren't here. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>yeh i know, do I want some cheese with that wine. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>But maybe it's time to buckle down even more and get some work >> > >>>>done. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>We've got our own album which just lacks a few songs being done, >> > >>>>but I've had the pleasure of working on some wonderful albums >> > >>>>this year, like our good friend Gudrun, what a treat, I wish we >> > >>>>could all go back and live in the 1300s but take modern plumbing >> > >>>>and our recording machines with us 'grin'. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Stephie is learning flute, and I'm learning mandolin nd used it >> > >>>>on my first track last week. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>We bought some new instruments, treated ourselves to a flute, a >> > >>>>mandolin and a cat gutt guitar 'grin'. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>there's just so certain times you need some cat gutts in your >> > >>>>music. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>and Nothing else will do. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>I've been playing with reason, and our good friend and giant >> > >>>>brained roy is 3 jumps ahead of me as usual 'grin'. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Reason has a lot of promise, even for us more traditional >> > >>>>instrumentalists, and it can be made to work with sonar quite >> > >>>>nicely through rewire. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>We've just got to figure out how to activate the rewire extra >> > >>>>channels, I've been cheating by dumping down tracks and >> > >>>>re-inserting the same synth. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>But there's a little something for everyone there, and in the >> > >>>>demo you can't save your songs but that doesn't matter if you >> > >>>>use it with >> >sonar. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Things tend to work best with xp of course, and or 32 bit w7 >> > >>>>next in line, and all the issues so far are always with w7 64 >> > >>>>bit since it's still green in the conservative studio >> > >>>>environment where we're always the last to upgrade, I tend to >> > >>>>use lots of older plug-ins that are just great and why loose >> > >>>>great tools as long as these fast machines will run them. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>But time does march on, and fixes will hapen eventually. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Ok, off to bed for me, just thought I'd pop my head in here. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>And update everybody, >> > >>>> >> > >>>>So the few of you here that are on the mag either write me here >> > >>>>or privately. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Blessings everybody. >> > >>>> >> > >>>>Chris and Stephie Belle. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>For all your audio production needs and technology training, >> > >>>>visit us at >> > >>>> >> > >>>>www.affordablestudioservices.com >> > >>>>or contact >> > >>>>Chris Belle >> > >>>>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>>>or >> > >>>>Stephie Belle >> > >>>>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>>>for customized web design >> > >>>> >> > >> >> > >>For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit >> > >>us at >> > >> >> > >>www.affordablestudioservices.com >> > >>or contact >> > >>Chris Belle >> > >>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>or >> > >>Stephie Belle >> > >>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>for customized web design >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us >> >at >> > >> >www.affordablestudioservices.com >> >or contact >> >Chris Belle >> >cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >or >> >Stephie Belle >> >stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >for customized web design >> >>For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us >>at >> >>www.affordablestudioservices.com >>or contact >>Chris Belle >>cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>or >>Stephie Belle >>stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>for customized web design > > For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at > > www.affordablestudioservices.com > or contact > Chris Belle > cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > or > Stephie Belle > stephieb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > for customized web design > > > >