Yep totally agree. I see social networking is good to find more than just blind folks with similar interests. It's easy to just communicate with blind folk on things when we both may learn from the other, especially if it's over a network where they have no idea you're blind. Just some thoughts. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:25 PM Subject: [realmusicians] Re: USING SOCIAL NETWORKS As a web developer I can tell you that it'll be hard to summarize all seo in here, but I'll keep it simple: Depending on the site and client, use social plugIns like the tweet button, facebook-like,/recommend, linkedIn, plus1 etc. Here's the catch, the client has to be actively promoting their site through the networks and they need to have a good presence in the circles, otherwise this can hurt instead of help, because the site will get a low score in those networks and then it'll propagate to the search engine results. Please don't put a connect/media section on a site just because everybody else is doing it, it can hurt more than it help in the long run. When I tell some customers not to do such things it's like asking them to pass up on business, but at the end, they pay me for my experience/knoledge, so they listen lol. Also, because of changes in many search engines and how the queries are done, now I encourage my customers to focus more on social/online marketing and let search engines take care of themselves. As long as your site meets good seo practices like: good/constant site structures, proper use of contents/navigation, good in-text linking, correct use of keywords (I don't just mean keywords listed on the header, those are for the most part ignored nowadays), proper structure; google is for example now looking at site sturctures and trying to determine how legit a site is based on organization and structure. And many other things, which again, would take quite a bit to detail. But there is no program that can make your site get to the top of the page on google's 10 or anything like that, you just need to develop a good scheme (trust me, no book can teach you that, only experience), and be sure that your content and page surroundings are accurate. Stay away from programs/services that promise these wonders, they usually cause bots to ignore/eliminate you completely. Another thing I'll mention quickily, PingBack, backtracking RSS and similar technologies in this social media connected cyber age is probably as crucial as, if not more important than (depending on the site and context in question) than getting good search engine results... HTH, D!J!X! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephie B Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:46 PM To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [realmusicians] USING SOCIAL NETWORKS Hi all. We aren't in favor of social networks but it is necessary in order to connect and draw people to look at your website. I'm currently doing a website building course and I'm learning about search engine optimization and the do/s and don'ts. I'd be interested to know what the feeling is on this list and/or if you have websites and have good ideas on how to promote it. I do have a pointer though, if sights advertise that they will bring thousands of people to your site for a fea, it's a scam. There are good ways to optimize the search engines just by what is put in the code of your pages. Steph For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at www.affordablestudioservices.com or contact Chris Belle cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or Stephie Belle sdb1961@xxxxxxxxxxxxx for customized web design