Did God also give us calculators so we wouldn't have to learn multiplication tables? <g>. I am probably just an old curmudgeon, but I remember the days when we didn't have spell checkers as standard options on computers. I remember writing term papers and having to look up words in a 20K word Braille speller. No, it's nothing to laugh out loud about: nothing to joke about at all. That is a tiny mote in the general degradation of American society. -----Original Message----- From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack and Becky Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:54 AM To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [real-eyes] e: Re: e: Fwd: Article: Braille Under Siege As Blind Turn To Smartphones Well I went to the Blind School in Austin when I was six through bout the age of eight or so. So I learned Grade one first then grade two. Very proficient brailleest. As for spelling? Well that's why the lord gave us spell checkers! LOL Jack ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx >To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Date sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:39:26 -0600 >Subject: [real-eyes] Re: e: Fwd: Article: Braille Under Siege As Blind Turn To Smartphones >Hmm, many of the Braille readers I know blame contracted Braille for their poor spelling. I have no personal opinion on that as I learned Braille rather late in life and don't use it much. >-----Original Message----- >From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jose >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:43 AM >To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [real-eyes] Re: e: Fwd: Article: Braille Under Siege As Blind Turn To Smartphones >I think for those who have problems spelling, using your fingers to lern words is one of the best ways to lern. ttyl. >P.S. I have a frend that is making bord and card games axessable on demand. >if anyone wants more info email me and I'll get you in tuch with sarah. >Jose Lopez, President >Lopez Language Services, LLC >"We Speak Your Language" >Call us anytime at 888.824.3022 >"This is what the LORD says: 'Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD'" >(Jeremiah 17:5). >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Reginald George" <adapt@xxxxxxxxx >To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:55 AM >Subject: [real-eyes] Re: e: Fwd: Article: Braille Under Siege As Blind Turn To Smartphones >>A very partial list of uses for Braille that can't easily be replaced >>by speech would include things like making Labels, speaking notes, >>higher science and mathematics notation, learning to spell, diagrams, >>maps, sheet music, charts, tactile drawings, conjugating sentences, so much more. >> Anyone want to add to the list? Some might argue about labeling. >> Talking >> bar codes help a lot. But who wants to take their electronic wand >>into the elevator to look for floors, or the hotel for room numbers. >>And why should you need an electronic aid fr something you can read >>with your own senses. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jack and Becky >> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:03 AM >> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [real-eyes] e: Fwd: Article: Braille Under Siege As Blind >> Turn To Smartphones >> Well, just as a point of view, those of us who are deaf blind depend >> on braille as a form of basic communication, without which we'd be in >> a word, sunk. There will ALWAYS be people who will use it, out of >> necessity if nothing else. >> My Best ! all >> Jack >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Terrie Lee <terrieiphone@xxxxxxxxx Date sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 >>>19:57:53 -0600 >>>The wining keeps going on from the braille camp how braille is >> declining and how many people just don't use the format any more. >> As the world moves faster and faster, the use of braille will decline. >> Will it ever vanish completely? I don't think so. >> If not, why aren't blind people using it as much. Because of the size >> of a braille book and because for large books braille is way to bulky >> and not easily produced in mass. The paper isn't even standard. It's >> thicker and more costly. The printed book is on the way out as well >> and you should hear the wining. There is nothing like the smell of a >> new book. True but that smell can be synthesized and made to go into >> book readers. As synthetic speech gets better and better, the day may >> come when you won't be able to tell the difference between a real >> human reading a book or a synthesized voice reading it. I just don't >> see Braille lasting as more then just a note taking means. In my >> opinion, save a tree, burn a braille boo >>> k <grin> Just kidding!. >>>Alan >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Lisa belville >>>http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/02/13/146812288/b >> raille-under-siege-as-blind-turn-to-smartphones >>>February 13, 2012 >> Meagan VERLEE >>>Audio for this story from All Things Considered will be available at >>>approx. 7:00 p.m. ET >>>Transcript >>>The National Federation of the Blind estimates that today only >> one in 10 >>>blind people can read Braille. That's down dramatically from the >> early >>>1900s. >>>Steve Mitchell/AP >>>The National Federation of the Blind estimates that today only >> one in 10 >>>blind people can read Braille. That's down dramatically from the >> early >>>1900s. >>>Like a lot of smartphone users, Rolando Terrazas, 19, uses his >> iPhone for >>>email, text messages and finding a decent coffee shop. But >> Terrazas' phone >>>also >>>sometimes serves as his eyes: When he waves a bill under its >> camera, for >>>instance, the phone tells him how much it's worth. >>>Terrazas is blind, and having an app to tell bills apart can be a >> big help. >>>For one thing, it means he doesn't have to trust clerks to give >> him correct >>>change. Terrazas' daily life is full of useful technology like >> this, but it >>>also has a downside: The more he uses technology, the less he >> uses Braille, >>>the alphabet of raised dots that the blind read with their >> fingers. >>>"All through elementary school I used Braille," Terrazas says. >> "But when I >>>got a laptop, I switched over and I went away from Braille. If >> you don't use >>>it, you lose it. And that's what happened to me." >>>Terrazas uses software that reads out loud what's on his computer >> screen. >>>These days, he's slowly re-learning Braille as a student at the >>>Colorado Center for the Blind, south of Denver. >>>The center puts a lot of effort into convincing students they >> still need >>>Braille to be independent and employable. Director Julie Deden >> says >>>technology >>>is making the nearly 200-year-old writing system more accessible >> than ever. >>>She shows off an electronic reader that's about the size of a >> paperback. >>>Instead >>>of having to lug around massive volumes of printed braille, this >> reader >>>allows Deden to just sweep her fingers over little plastic nubs >> that rise >>>and fall >>>with each line of text. >>>Still, Deden worries that technologies like smartphones are also >> masking a >>>serious problem - Braille illiteracy. >>>"People will let it go and they'll say: 'Well, you know, they're >> not really >>>illiterate. They just don't really use Braille or print very >> much, but >>>that's >>>just because they're blind,' " she says. "I think that it's kind >> of an out, >>>and technically they really are mostly illiterate." >>>Blind people choosing not to learn Braille is only one part of >> the equation. >>>Chris Danielsen with the >>>National Federation of the Blind >>>says his group is increasingly butting heads with school >> districts trying >>>to get out of federal obligations to provide a Braille teacher. >>>"They will tend to say, 'Well we have screen magnification >> software, we have >>>all these tools available, and in light of that we don't think >> it's >>>necessary >>>for a blind person to be taught Braille,' " Danielsen says. >>>The federation estimates that today only one in 10 blind people >> can read >>>Braille. That's down dramatically from the early 1900s. Jackie >> Owellet lost >>>her >>>sight as an adult, after an operation. Standing in a cafe in a >> Denver >>>suburb, Owellet says learning to read Braille was the last thing >> on her >>>mind. >>>"When am I ever going to use Braille? I'm never going to sit down >> and read a >>>novel in Braille. You know, I'd rather download an audio book >> from iTunes," >>>she says. >>>But last year, while taking classes for her yoga instructor >> certification, >>>it became clear that having a mechanical voice reading off >> teaching notes >>>didn't >>>make for a very soothing yoga experience. >>>"So I realized there is a use for Braille," Owellet says. "I >> think everybody >>>uses Braille in their own way. You know, I think that everybody >> finds what >>>they need to use Braille for." >>>Advocates for Braille are hoping blind people like Owellet will >> continue to >>>find enough reasons to keep their tactile system of writing >> alive, even >>>amidst >>>the growing chorus of computer voices. >>>BlindTech is owned by Michael Capelle: >>>michael.capelle@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>To send a message to the list >>>BlindTech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>To search list archives: >>>http://lists.blindtech-list.info/pipermail/blindtech-blindtech-li >> st.info/ >>>If you have any questions about this list, or the day-to-day >> opperations, >>>please don't send those questions on list, instead, please write: >>>blindtech-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>To manage your subscription options, go to >>>http://lists.blindtech-list.info/options.cgi/blindtech-blindtech- >> list.info >>>women are not complicated. Seriously. 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