I changed the subject line to reflect the topic. Mitch and others, the buttons can be located at an accessible intersection by an intermittent beeping sound at each button that is mounted on the pole. This sound is set to get louder or quieter depending upon the surrounding traffic noise. The surface at each curb cut has a raised texture so that you can insure using your feet that you are right where you need to be to line up to cross. When the light changes and it is safe to cross, an announcement starts telling which street is safe for pedestrians. Because the beep happens on all corners, you can insure that you are on target by listening to the sound a head of you. You can also listen to the traffic sounds as well. Sighted pedestrians can tell when to go just by using the traffic lights, but they have always been provided with an additional lighted sign telling them when it is safe to walk. I feel that is the city is willing to provide a designated sign for pedestrians, it should be accessible, after all they knew many years ago that they had to do something for people using wheel chairs. Now ramps are at all corners not just a few like they seem to expect us to get by with. . hth. Hugs, AJ Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. NET SECURITY: When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation to erase all names and email addresses. And send the message by using BCC (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net. Thank you. To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes