[real-eyes] Re: Old Dead Computers
- From: "Jim Fettgather" <jimfettgather@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:44:44 -0500
Sorry, can't give you any good advice on high end processors or expensive
computers.
I like buying the cheapest I can get, driving it into the ground, then 300
dollars and 18 months later, time for a new machine.
I love unpacking and setting up new computers.
There's nothing like the anticipation, excitement and thrill of unpacking a
new PC.
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From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:23 PM
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [real-eyes] Old Dead Computers
> Hi Mitch and List,
>
> I've actually had only 2 desktop computers since 1995. The 1995 Gateway
> had
> Windows 95 beta on it before Jaws would even work with it, smile, and 64MB
> of RAM. It also cost about 2 grand. It had a Dectalk PC board half as
> long
> as my arm, and that lovely single channel SoundBlaster 16 or whatever it
> was. No, belay that, it was a Chrystal Semiconductor at first. My main
> work computer now is a custom built AMD Athlon that runs at 1.5 GTHZ. Had
> to replace the motherboard, so at least I have USB 2.0 ports now. My next
> one is going to be probably an AMD quad core with about 25 USB 3.0 ports
> if
> I have anything to say about it. Anyone have any advice on the best
> affordable high end processor? I feel a little out of the loop on
> hardware
> these days. I like to keep my computers running as long as I can. You
> should hear the fan growling in this one. I'm ready for a super quiet
> computer too.
>
> Reg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:05 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
>
> How old was that Gateway? In the past ten years, I have bought more than a
> dozen machines and sound cards combine, and none of them was single
> channel.
> As I recall, one of the big arguments for going to PCI (back in 97 or 98)
> was the multichannel capabilities over ISA. The first PCI card I had
> wouldn't play more than one stream, but every card since then has. BTW,
> I'd
> probably still be using dedicated synthesizers had they all not died.
> Well,
> one still lives, but it is on the Linux box.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Reginald George
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:52 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
> Okay okay, easy. Duyahn is a broadcaster, so he needed an easy way to run
> his speech separate from music and other audio. Short of using two sound
> cards or an external sound card with a laptop this was the best way for
> him
> and many others, particularly under XP where the mixing capabilities are
> limited. I had one of those single channel sound cards on my old Gateway
> that would cut off wave files just to play speech. Multi channel only
> applies here if you can have multiple input and output jacks and control
> over source levels, and that is the definition he was using. if you want
> to
> regulate the levels for speech separately and route it differently, as in
> part of it to headphones and part to speakers, an external synth is a good
> way to do that. Not to mention many of us still appreciate the quality of
> the dectalk speech. Many a medical transcriptionist has faced the same
> scenario. The argument over multi channel sound cards is obscuring the
> very
> real issue of needing a way to split your sound. Duyahn is only sharing
> his
> methodology for achieving this, and the fact that there is a bug in Jaws
> 11
> that requires you to select a different profile then you would expect to
> get
> the USB Dectalk to work.
>
> Reg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:46 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
>
> The fact is that unless we are talking about the third World or folks who
> are not running Win XP, Vista, or Win 7, or maybe even Win 98, we are not
> talking about single channel sound cards. You stated that most people
> don't
> have multichannel sound cards, and that is just not true. Multichannel
> sound
> cards antedate the 'audigy by years, and it wasn't even the first
> multichannel card in the Creative (Sound Blaster) lineup.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:26 AM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
> When I was talking about the soundcard, I was talking about before Audigy
> which was made by SoundBlaster and other cards that are out there.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:25 AM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
>
> To quote your previous post: "Most people do not have a multichannel sound
> card...." Most, if not all, of the ISA sound cards were single channel. I
> can recall only one PCI format card that was single channel, and that was
> a
> very early PCI card from 1997 or 1998.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:10 AM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
> I understand that. All I am doing is passing on information. I didn't say
> that multi-channel sound cards didn't exist.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:00 AM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
>
> Multi-channel sound cards are ubiquitous these days. I haven't seen one
> that
> wasn't multi-channel in probably ten years.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:58 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11
>
> I know most of you, or quite possibly all of you, will say, why do I see
> this email when I could care less about this synthesizer and not to
> mention,
> I don't own one?
> Here's your answer. It's helpful information to know. Also, most people do
> not have a multi-channel sound card so they have to use an external speech
> synthesizer to hear there screen readers such as Jaws.
> I would like to thank Mr. Mike Casolino at Access solutions for helping me
> discover this trick.
> We all know that the DecTalk USB was named after the retired DecTalk
> Express, DecTalk PCI, and the DecTalk Access32 software.
> In previous versions of Jaws, here is what you did after you had all your
> scripts running, configured and installed Jaws to your liking. You would
> press insert-j and it would open the Jaws menu if you were running Jaws
> from
> the system tray. Then you would press the letter, U and go in to the
> utility
> manager and go down to the synthesizer and Braille manager. Once you were
> in
> the synthesizer and Braille manager, you could add your braille display
> and
> or speech synthesizer that you wanted to add. For instance, let's take the
> DecTalk USB. Let's say you have already installed the DecTalk USB
> synthesizer and you have restarted Jaws. Now, let's say you want to use
> it.
> Remember that in previous versions of Jaws, in the list of synthesizer's,
> the DecTalk USB would be listed. You would use your key commands to switch
> over to it and then, boom! There is Dectalk USB speaking to you. This
> would
> be the same in Jaws 11 but, now, DecTalk USB is listed as the DecTalk
> express.
> Wait! You just said Duyahn, that DecTalk USB is installed.
> Yes I did.
> Now your saying the Dec USB won't work?
> No. I am not saying that at all. Let me explain.
> I did say that, yes, the Dectalk USB is installed and ready to use. But,
> now, here is the part you have to remember. You have to go and use the
> DecTalk Express factory setting in Jaws listed in the voices section of
> Jaws
> since the USB model was named after the Express.
> We are now going to create what is known as a voice Profile for Jaws.
> Set your voices for the Pc cursor, Jaws cursor, keyboard voice, and menu
> and
> tuter voice as you normally would. Now, go and save this new profile you
> have created for Jaws. Call it whatever you like. For the sake of this
> document, we will save the voice profile as DecTalk USB.
> Now, after getting out of the voice profiles options, press insert-ctrl-s,
> and a menu of choices will appear that have all your synthesizers and
> profiles you have.
> Press the letter, D, for Dectalk USB and make sure that is indeed the
> default synthesizer. Although, you may not have to since Default will be
> the
> first option it highlights.
> Press enter, and DecTalk USB should begin speaking to you. If you want to
> go
> back to Eloquence, just press insert-ctrl-s again and just press the
> letter,
> E, for Eloquence and then press enter.
> By the way, these same steps will work when you want to set up a voice
> profile for Eloquence.
>
> Duyahn
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