[real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11

  • From: "Reginald George" <sgeorge@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:51:45 -0500

Okay okay, easy.  Duyahn is a broadcaster, so he needed an easy way to run 
his speech separate from music and other audio.  Short of using two sound 
cards or an external sound card with a laptop this was the best way for him 
and many others, particularly under XP where the mixing capabilities are 
limited.  I had one of those single channel sound cards on my old Gateway 
that would cut off wave files just to play speech.  Multi channel only 
applies here if you can have multiple input and output jacks and control 
over source levels, and that is the definition he was using.  if you want to 
regulate the levels for speech separately and route it differently, as in 
part of it to headphones and part to speakers, an external synth is a good 
way to do that.  Not to mention many of us still appreciate the quality of 
the dectalk speech.  Many a medical transcriptionist has faced the same 
scenario.  The argument over multi channel sound cards is obscuring the very 
real issue of needing a way to split your sound.  Duyahn is only sharing his 
methodology for achieving this, and the fact that there is a bug in Jaws 11 
that requires you to select a different profile then you would expect to get 
the USB Dectalk to work.

Reg
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:46 PM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11


The fact is that unless we are talking about the third World or folks who
are not running Win XP, Vista, or Win 7, or maybe even Win 98, we are not
talking about single channel sound cards. You stated that most people don't
have multichannel sound cards, and that is just not true. Multichannel sound
cards antedate the 'audigy by years, and it wasn't even the first
multichannel card in the Creative (Sound Blaster) lineup.




-----Original Message-----
From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:26 AM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11

When I was talking about the soundcard, I was talking about before Audigy
which was made by SoundBlaster and other cards that are out there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:25 AM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11


To quote your previous post: "Most people do not have a multichannel sound
card...." Most, if not all, of the ISA sound cards were single channel. I
can recall only one PCI format card that was single channel, and that was a
very early PCI card from 1997 or 1998.

-----Original Message-----
From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:10 AM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11

I understand that. All I am doing is passing on information. I didn't say
that multi-channel sound cards didn't exist.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11


Multi-channel sound cards are ubiquitous these days. I haven't seen one that
wasn't multi-channel in probably ten years.


-----Original Message-----
From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:58 PM
To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [real-eyes] Getting DecTalk USB working with Jaws 11

I know most of you, or quite possibly all of you, will say, why do I see
this email when I could care less about this synthesizer and not to mention,
I don't own one?
Here's your answer. It's helpful information to know. Also, most people do
not have a multi-channel sound card so they have to use an external speech
synthesizer to hear there screen readers such as Jaws.
I would like to thank Mr. Mike Casolino at Access solutions for helping me
discover this trick.
We all know that the DecTalk USB was named after the retired DecTalk
Express, DecTalk PCI, and the DecTalk Access32 software.
In previous versions of Jaws, here is what you did after you had all your
scripts running, configured and installed Jaws to your liking. You would
press insert-j and it would open the Jaws menu if you were running Jaws from
the system tray. Then you would press the letter, U and go in to the utility
manager and go down to the synthesizer and Braille manager. Once you were in
the synthesizer and Braille manager, you could add your braille display and
or speech synthesizer that you wanted to add. For instance, let's take the
DecTalk USB. Let's say you have already installed the DecTalk USB
synthesizer and you have restarted Jaws. Now, let's say you want to use it.
Remember that in previous versions of Jaws, in the list of synthesizer's,
the DecTalk USB would be listed. You would use your key commands to switch
over to it and then, boom! There is Dectalk USB speaking to you. This would
be the same in Jaws 11 but, now, DecTalk USB is listed as the DecTalk
express.
Wait! You just said Duyahn, that DecTalk USB is installed.
Yes I did.
Now your saying the Dec USB won't work?
No. I am not saying that at all. Let me explain.
I did say that, yes, the Dectalk USB is installed and ready to use. But,
now, here is the part you have to remember. You have to go and use the
DecTalk Express factory setting in Jaws listed in the voices section of Jaws
since the USB model was named after the Express.
We are now going to create what is known as a voice Profile for Jaws.
Set your voices for the Pc cursor, Jaws cursor, keyboard voice, and menu and
tuter voice as you normally would. Now, go and save this new profile you
have created for Jaws. Call it whatever you like. For the sake of this
document, we will save the voice profile as DecTalk USB.
Now, after getting out of the voice profiles options, press insert-ctrl-s,
and a menu of choices will appear that have all your synthesizers and
profiles you have.
Press the letter, D, for Dectalk USB and make sure that is indeed the
default synthesizer. Although, you may not have to since Default will be the
first option it highlights.
Press enter, and DecTalk USB should begin speaking to you. If you want to go
back to Eloquence, just press insert-ctrl-s again and just press the letter,
E, for Eloquence and then press enter.
By the way, these same steps will work when you want to set up a voice
profile for Eloquence.

Duyahn
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