Just FYI the new Sonos app just released is accessible with VoiceOver Sincerely, Chad Rohr > On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Mitchell Lynn <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I don't have one, but maybe he is trying to limit discussion to a known > set of apps--perhaps those that are native to the iPhone. there's no way > he could cover them all. there is, for example, a Sonos app for > iDevices, and if I knew it worked with VO, I might well give it a shot. > Once upon a time, it did work, but the Sonos UI has changed dramatically > since then. A workable Sonos app and the paper money ID would be very > very useful. Having to pay for a data plan sucks. > > Pretty high praise--first or second piece of independence technology. > Couldn't get any higher than 4th on my list no matter what it could do. > It won't replace my cane, braille or my desktop. Funny how those with > dogs place the dog higher, and those who use a cane place the iPhone > higher. There is something screwy with that line of thinking. > > > > > >> On 06/06/14 11:05 AM, William Stephan wrote: >> Andrea: >> Most blind people I talk to say their iPhone is the best or second best >> piece of independence technology, depending on whether or not they work a >> dog. >> This article fails to mention many things that make the iPhone a great tool, >> e.g. apps like TapTap See and Camfind. >> I totally didn't get the part about GPS, why would you only use that if you >> had a driver? Has he never heard of apps like BlindSquare? >> And, if you just wanted to be a cheapo blind person, you could just direct >> your driver with the native Maps application anyway. >> Also, I don't buy the typing speeds he mentions. I'm not a speedy typist, >> but I surely type far faster than three words a minute using the touch >> screen, and though I haven't timed myself in a while, I probably type at >> least forty words a minute using Fleksy. >> And, with IOS 8, the Fleksy option will be available in many more Apps. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Andrea Breier >> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 7:41 AM >> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [real-eyes] Braille monitor artical , Knowing What Is Good About >> the iPhone and What Is Not >> >> I thought this might be good to toss out there for discussion. This artical >> was printed in the June addition. I agree that there is a learning curve >> that naturally goes along with any smart phone, but because of the wide >> veriaty of abilities of the many people I have personally instructed with >> the iPhone, do not feel that there is a better accessibility option in the >> smart phone arina. there are several other options or salutions that could >> have been implamented in some of the examples he gave. Fleksy as an input >> option for his touch typing example for one, or using the split tap or >> adjusting the speed of the tap under accessibility options. >> Okay enough said for now. Here goes the artical. >>> ---------- [PHOTO CAPTION: Curtis >>> Chong] >>> Knowing What Is Good About the iPhone and What Is Not >>> by Curtis Chong >>> >>> From the Editor: The iPhone is unquestionably the most popular >>> cell phone used by the blind. Apple's revolutionary breakthrough in >>> providing a roadmap for making the touchscreen usable by the blind has >>> earned it significant praise from the blind, and their money has >>> followed their words. But even with its impressive list of features >>> and its accessibility, the iPhone is not for everyone, including some >>> blind people. In this article Curtis Chong, who is a technology expert >>> now living in New Mexico, explains the benefits of cutting-edge >>> technology, but he also knows that the complexity of the iPhone and >>> the needs of many cell phone users do not make it a good match. Here >>> is what he has to say: >>> >>> Many people have hailed the Apple iPhone as one of the first >>> touchscreen technologies that can be used by the blind without sighted >>> assistance. When Apple released the iPhone with VoiceOver back in >>> 2009, even the most skeptical among us recognized that Apple had >>> accomplished a truly phenomenal feat of design and engineering; for >>> the first time in history a person who could not see the screen was >>> able to operate all of the controls of a device, even though those >>> controls were nothing more than icons on a flat screen. >>> Today the iPhone's reputation as an accessible technology for the >>> blind is widespread. People who have never used an accessible cell >>> phone have heard about the iPhone and dream about taking advantage of >>> its accessibility for themselves. Well-meaning sons and daughters, >>> hearing about the legendary accessibility of the iPhone, act to >>> purchase this marvelous piece of technology for their aging mother or >>> father. Parents who want an accessible cell phone for their blind >>> youngsters believe that the iPhone is the perfect solution. >>> Accessible as the iPhone is, it is important to understand both >>> its strengths and weaknesses before deciding to spend the money to get >>> it. For some people it will be the perfect solution. For others it >>> could turn out to be a very expensive paperweight. >>> The good and bad points about the iPhone that are listed below >>> are based solely on my personal experience. In judging the accuracy of >>> this information for yourself, you should know that I was a relative >>> latecomer to the iPhone; I waited nearly two years before I decided to >>> abandon my accessible Nokia cell phone for it, and, because I had >>> talked with a lot of blind people before I decided to make the >>> purchase, I was not disappointed in my decision. >>> >>> The Good Things About the iPhone >>> >>> 1. The iPhone enables you to take advantage of online services- >>> particularly if they are supported by an iPhone app-for example, >>> banking, news, music, searching for information, reading books online, >>> email, weather, etc. >>> 2. The iPhone gives you the same technology as many of your blind >>> friends who have already embraced the iPhone as their technological >>> Swiss Army Knife of choice. This means that, if you run into trouble, >>> you will probably be able to find a blind person with the knowledge >>> and experience to help you. >>> 3. The iPhone demonstrates conclusively that the blind can >>> operate a touchscreen device that has been properly designed for >>> nonvisual use. In this regard I take great delight in using my iPhone >>> with the screen completely blank-just to show my sighted colleagues that >> it can be done. >>> 4. The iPhone can tell you who is calling before you answer the call. >>> 5. The iPhone can help you keep track of recent calls made and/or >>> received, and you can easily return a missed call. >>> 6. The iPhone offers a dictation system that enables you to make >>> calls to people in your contact list, call specific phone numbers that >>> you already know, dictate emails and text messages, and ask questions >>> that may or may not result in useful answers. >>> 7. The iPhone can run a GPS system that you can use to direct >>> drivers to where you want to go if you pay for a good GPS app. >>> 8. The iPhone has a free built-in compass which is quite useful >>> in places where there are no good landmarks. >>> 9. With a ten-dollar app, the iPhone can read paper currency; >>> this app can even read foreign paper currency. >>> 10. The iPhone is a great music player and also good for >>> streaming radio. >>> 11. With the iPhone you can read digital talking books and >>> electronic Braille books from the National Library Service of the >>> Library of Congress. >>> 12. The iPhone can be used to read books from Audible.com and >>> Kindle books from Amazon. It can also read books from a variety of >>> other sources- including Learning Ally and Bookshare. >>> 13. The iPhone offers access to NFB-NEWSLINER through a free app. >>> 14. You can take pictures with the iPhone. Autofocus gives you a >>> verbal indication whether there is a face in the picture. Also the >>> camera can, to some extent, be used with optical character recognition >>> software to read printed material if you can focus the camera. >>> 15. The iPhone has built-in voice output and screen enlargement >>> available free. Activating these technologies is fairly straightforward. >>> Moreover, you will find that a growing number of books and people are >>> available to offer help and support for new iPhone users. >>> >>> What Is Not Good About The iPhone >>> >>> 1. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, the iPhone has no >>> option for that. A data plan will cost you about twenty dollars a >>> month. You need a data plan for the iPhone to be able to communicate over >> the Internet. >>> 2. It is very inefficient to make a simple phone call with the >>> iPhone, particularly if you don't have a person in your contacts list. >>> You can dial a phone number that you know much more quickly with a >>> keypad that has real, physical buttons. >>> 3. On the iPhone touch typing for texting and email is very slow >>> as compared to a regular keyboard; this has been somewhat mitigated by >>> Braille apps, of which there are now two. However, you should know >>> that research has shown that, on average, a blind person entering data >>> using the touch- screen QWERTY keyboard is writing at about three >>> words per minute. By contrast, users of the built-in Braille apps have >>> been clocked at around >>> 23 >>> words per minute. >>> 4. The iPhone is very much a technology requiring good hand-ear >>> coordination. People who want real buttons that they can operate >>> silently by touch will be very disappointed in the iPhone. >>> 5. Battery life for the iPhone is still an issue. You have to >>> charge it at least once a day-a lot more if you use GPS. >>> 6. The iPhone is not small. It is bigger than a lot of flip phones. >>> 7. For a lot of people the iPhone is a lot more technology than >>> they want. It is not for someone who just wants a phone to make and >>> receive calls. >>> 8. The iPhone is not cheap. Even with a two-year contract, the >>> basic unit can cost $200. The full retail price of the iPhone is >>> approximately $650. >>> 9. First-time users of the iPhone have reported initial >>> frustration with this powerful technology. It is not uncommon for >>> these people to feel as if they want to throw the phone away during >>> the first month. Answering calls and hanging up calls seem to be two >>> particularly difficult problems for beginning iPhone users. >>> 10. The iPhone requires a fair amount of dexterity and the >>> ability to tap quickly. People who have motor issues or poor dexterity >>> will likely not benefit from this technology. >>> >>> Conclusion >>> >>> The iPhone is simply not for everyone-despite its built-in >>> nonvisual accessibility. Before you decide to get one, do the >>> research, talk to your colleagues in the blind community, and decide >>> whether or not you really need or want the power that the iPhone has >>> to offer. Before you buy, be prepared to experience some frustration, >>> have a few second thoughts, and expect initially to find some simple >>> phone functions harder than you think they should be. >>> ---------- >> >> Hugs, AJ >> >> Recipe for happiness: >> Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, act with >> purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. >> >> Remember, if a dog was the teacher you would learn things like: >> When loved ones come home, always run to greet them. >> Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride. >> Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face to be pure >> Ecstasy. >> Take naps. >> Stretch before rising. >> Run, romp, and play daily. >> Thrive on attention and let people touch you. >> Avoid biting when a simple growl will do. >> On warm days, stop to lie on your back on the grass. >> On hot days, drink lots of water and lie under a shady tree. >> When you're happy, dance around and wag your entire body. >> Delight in the simple joy of a long walk. >> Be loyal. >> Never pretend to be something you're not. >> If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it. >> When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by, and nuzzle them >> gently. >> ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY! >> >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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