There is an app for that!!! LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchell Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 6:52 PM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Braille monitor artical , Knowing What Is Good About the iPhone and What Is Not > I've got some things going on next week that will make it difficult to > work around. But after that, I should be a bit more free. > > As for the iPhone, will it create an encrypted topographical map showing > me where my Mason jars are buried? Will it do my laundry for me? Will it > brew my coffee and keep it at a perfect and constant temperature? Will I > get an electro shock if I touch it? Will it be covertly sending my > fingerprints to the NSA if I do touch it? > > > > On 06/06/14 5:14 PM, Patrick & Jennifer wrote: >> Don't knock it tell you check it out and when are we goinhg to have that >> Beer and I'll let you test drive an IPhone! >> >> Later >> Patrick >> ! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Mitchell Lynn >> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 2:31 PM >> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: Braille monitor artical , Knowing What Is Good >> About the iPhone and What Is Not >> >> No issue with it being second behind a guide dog. I think it is peculiar >> to >> put the iPhone ahead of a cane. I'd still put braille in front of any >> electronic device and I would put a computer in front of an iPhone. I am >> not >> even a good braille reader: I can write with a slate almost as fast as I >> can >> read it. Nor am I likely to read or write anything in braille that won't >> fit >> on a 4x6 index card. Still, it would be ahead of the iPhone. I will >> concede >> that it is possible the iPhone could slide ahead of a full-blown >> computer, >> but I don't think it is likely. >> >> >> On 06/06/14 2:08 PM, Sheila Styron wrote: >>> The best part of being blind for me is my guy dog. And a close second is >> my iPhone! >>> >>> Best, Sheila >>> 816-896-6552 >>> >>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Mitchell Lynn <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I don't have one, but maybe he is trying to limit discussion to a >>> known set of apps--perhaps those that are native to the iPhone. >>> there's no way he could cover them all. there is, for example, a Sonos >>> app for iDevices, and if I knew it worked with VO, I might well give it >>> a >> shot. >>> Once upon a time, it did work, but the Sonos UI has changed >>> dramatically since then. A workable Sonos app and the paper money ID >>> would be very very useful. Having to pay for a data plan sucks. >>> >>> Pretty high praise--first or second piece of independence technology. >>> Couldn't get any higher than 4th on my list no matter what it could do. >>> It won't replace my cane, braille or my desktop. Funny how those with >>> dogs place the dog higher, and those who use a cane place the iPhone >>> higher. There is something screwy with that line of thinking. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 06/06/14 11:05 AM, William Stephan wrote: >>>> Andrea: >>>> Most blind people I talk to say their iPhone is the best or second >>>> best piece of independence technology, depending on whether or not >>>> they work a dog. >>>> This article fails to mention many things that make the iPhone a >>>> great tool, e.g. apps like TapTap See and Camfind. >>>> I totally didn't get the part about GPS, why would you only use that >>>> if you had a driver? Has he never heard of apps like BlindSquare? >>>> And, if you just wanted to be a cheapo blind person, you could just >>>> direct your driver with the native Maps application anyway. >>>> Also, I don't buy the typing speeds he mentions. I'm not a speedy >>>> typist, but I surely type far faster than three words a minute using >>>> the touch screen, and though I haven't timed myself in a while, I >>>> probably type at least forty words a minute using Fleksy. >>>> And, with IOS 8, the Fleksy option will be available in many more Apps. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Andrea Breier >>>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 7:41 AM >>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Braille monitor artical , Knowing What Is Good >>>> About the iPhone and What Is Not >>>> >>>> I thought this might be good to toss out there for discussion. This >>>> artical was printed in the June addition. I agree that there is a >>>> learning curve that naturally goes along with any smart phone, but >>>> because of the wide veriaty of abilities of the many people I have >>>> personally instructed with the iPhone, do not feel that there is a >>>> better accessibility option in the smart phone arina. there are >>>> several other options or salutions that could have been implamented >>>> in some of the examples he gave. Fleksy as an input option for his >>>> touch >> typing example for one, or using the split tap or >>>> adjusting the speed of the tap under accessibility options. >>>> Okay enough said for now. Here goes the artical. >>>>> ---------- [PHOTO CAPTION: Curtis >>>>> Chong] >>>>> Knowing What Is Good About the iPhone and What Is Not >>>>> by Curtis Chong >>>>> >>>>> From the Editor: The iPhone is unquestionably the most popular >>>>> cell phone used by the blind. Apple's revolutionary breakthrough in >>>>> providing a roadmap for making the touchscreen usable by the blind >>>>> has earned it significant praise from the blind, and their money has >>>>> followed their words. But even with its impressive list of features >>>>> and its accessibility, the iPhone is not for everyone, including >>>>> some blind people. In this article Curtis Chong, who is a technology >>>>> expert now living in New Mexico, explains the benefits of >>>>> cutting-edge technology, but he also knows that the complexity of >>>>> the iPhone and the needs of many cell phone users do not make it a >>>>> good match. Here is what he has to say: >>>>> >>>>> Many people have hailed the Apple iPhone as one of the first >>>>> touchscreen technologies that can be used by the blind without >>>>> sighted assistance. When Apple released the iPhone with VoiceOver >>>>> back in 2009, even the most skeptical among us recognized that Apple >>>>> had accomplished a truly phenomenal feat of design and engineering; >>>>> for the first time in history a person who could not see the screen >>>>> was able to operate all of the controls of a device, even though >>>>> those controls were nothing more than icons on a flat screen. >>>>> Today the iPhone's reputation as an accessible technology for >>>>> the blind is widespread. People who have never used an accessible >>>>> cell phone have heard about the iPhone and dream about taking >>>>> advantage of its accessibility for themselves. Well-meaning sons and >>>>> daughters, hearing about the legendary accessibility of the iPhone, >>>>> act to purchase this marvelous piece of technology for their aging >>>>> mother or father. Parents who want an accessible cell phone for >>>>> their blind youngsters believe that the iPhone is the perfect >>>>> solution. >>>>> Accessible as the iPhone is, it is important to understand both >>>>> its strengths and weaknesses before deciding to spend the money to >>>>> get it. For some people it will be the perfect solution. For others >>>>> it could turn out to be a very expensive paperweight. >>>>> The good and bad points about the iPhone that are listed below >>>>> are based solely on my personal experience. In judging the accuracy >>>>> of this information for yourself, you should know that I was a >>>>> relative latecomer to the iPhone; I waited nearly two years before I >>>>> decided to abandon my accessible Nokia cell phone for it, and, >>>>> because I had talked with a lot of blind people before I decided to >>>>> make the purchase, I was not disappointed in my decision. >>>>> >>>>> The Good Things About the iPhone >>>>> >>>>> 1. The iPhone enables you to take advantage of online services- >>>>> particularly if they are supported by an iPhone app-for example, >>>>> banking, news, music, searching for information, reading books >>>>> online, email, weather, etc. >>>>> 2. The iPhone gives you the same technology as many of your >>>>> blind friends who have already embraced the iPhone as their >>>>> technological Swiss Army Knife of choice. This means that, if you >>>>> run into trouble, you will probably be able to find a blind person >>>>> with the knowledge and experience to help you. >>>>> 3. The iPhone demonstrates conclusively that the blind can >>>>> operate a touchscreen device that has been properly designed for >>>>> nonvisual use. In this regard I take great delight in using my >>>>> iPhone with the screen completely blank-just to show my sighted >>>>> colleagues that >>>> it can be done. >>>>> 4. The iPhone can tell you who is calling before you answer the >> call. >>>>> 5. The iPhone can help you keep track of recent calls made >>>>> and/or received, and you can easily return a missed call. >>>>> 6. The iPhone offers a dictation system that enables you to make >>>>> calls to people in your contact list, call specific phone numbers >>>>> that you already know, dictate emails and text messages, and ask >>>>> questions that may or may not result in useful answers. >>>>> 7. The iPhone can run a GPS system that you can use to direct >>>>> drivers to where you want to go if you pay for a good GPS app. >>>>> 8. The iPhone has a free built-in compass which is quite useful >>>>> in places where there are no good landmarks. >>>>> 9. With a ten-dollar app, the iPhone can read paper currency; >>>>> this app can even read foreign paper currency. >>>>> 10. The iPhone is a great music player and also good for >>>>> streaming radio. >>>>> 11. With the iPhone you can read digital talking books and >>>>> electronic Braille books from the National Library Service of the >>>>> Library of Congress. >>>>> 12. The iPhone can be used to read books from Audible.com and >>>>> Kindle books from Amazon. It can also read books from a variety of >>>>> other sources- including Learning Ally and Bookshare. >>>>> 13. The iPhone offers access to NFB-NEWSLINER through a free app. >>>>> 14. You can take pictures with the iPhone. Autofocus gives you a >>>>> verbal indication whether there is a face in the picture. Also the >>>>> camera can, to some extent, be used with optical character >>>>> recognition software to read printed material if you can focus the >> camera. >>>>> 15. The iPhone has built-in voice output and screen enlargement >>>>> available free. Activating these technologies is fairly >>>>> straightforward. >>>>> Moreover, you will find that a growing number of books and people >>>>> are available to offer help and support for new iPhone users. >>>>> >>>>> What Is Not Good About The iPhone >>>>> >>>>> 1. If you don't want to pay for a data plan, the iPhone has no >>>>> option for that. A data plan will cost you about twenty dollars a >>>>> month. You need a data plan for the iPhone to be able to communicate >>>>> over >>>> the Internet. >>>>> 2. It is very inefficient to make a simple phone call with the >>>>> iPhone, particularly if you don't have a person in your contacts list. >>>>> You can dial a phone number that you know much more quickly with a >>>>> keypad that has real, physical buttons. >>>>> 3. On the iPhone touch typing for texting and email is very slow >>>>> as compared to a regular keyboard; this has been somewhat mitigated >>>>> by Braille apps, of which there are now two. However, you should >>>>> know that research has shown that, on average, a blind person >>>>> entering data using the touch- screen QWERTY keyboard is writing at >>>>> about three words per minute. By contrast, users of the built-in >>>>> Braille apps have been clocked at around >>>>> 23 >>>>> words per minute. >>>>> 4. The iPhone is very much a technology requiring good hand-ear >>>>> coordination. People who want real buttons that they can operate >>>>> silently by touch will be very disappointed in the iPhone. >>>>> 5. Battery life for the iPhone is still an issue. You have to >>>>> charge it at least once a day-a lot more if you use GPS. >>>>> 6. The iPhone is not small. It is bigger than a lot of flip >>>>> phones. >>>>> 7. For a lot of people the iPhone is a lot more technology than >>>>> they want. It is not for someone who just wants a phone to make and >>>>> receive calls. >>>>> 8. The iPhone is not cheap. Even with a two-year contract, the >>>>> basic unit can cost $200. The full retail price of the iPhone is >>>>> approximately $650. >>>>> 9. First-time users of the iPhone have reported initial >>>>> frustration with this powerful technology. It is not uncommon for >>>>> these people to feel as if they want to throw the phone away during >>>>> the first month. Answering calls and hanging up calls seem to be two >>>>> particularly difficult problems for beginning iPhone users. >>>>> 10. The iPhone requires a fair amount of dexterity and the >>>>> ability to tap quickly. People who have motor issues or poor >>>>> dexterity will likely not benefit from this technology. >>>>> >>>>> Conclusion >>>>> >>>>> The iPhone is simply not for everyone-despite its built-in >>>>> nonvisual accessibility. Before you decide to get one, do the >>>>> research, talk to your colleagues in the blind community, and decide >>>>> whether or not you really need or want the power that the iPhone has >>>>> to offer. Before you buy, be prepared to experience some >>>>> frustration, have a few second thoughts, and expect initially to >>>>> find some simple phone functions harder than you think they should be. >>>>> ---------- >>>> >>>> Hugs, AJ >>>> >>>> Recipe for happiness: >>>> Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love without conditions, >>>> act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh often. >>>> >>>> Remember, if a dog was the teacher you would learn things like: >>>> When loved ones come home, always run to greet them. >>>> Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride. >>>> Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face to be >>>> pure Ecstasy. >>>> Take naps. >>>> Stretch before rising. >>>> Run, romp, and play daily. >>>> Thrive on attention and let people touch you. >>>> Avoid biting when a simple growl will do. >>>> On warm days, stop to lie on your back on the grass. >>>> On hot days, drink lots of water and lie under a shady tree. >>>> When you're happy, dance around and wag your entire body. >>>> Delight in the simple joy of a long walk. >>>> Be loyal. >>>> Never pretend to be something you're not. >>>> If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it. >>>> When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by, and nuzzle >>>> them gently. >>>> ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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