[racattack] Re: racattack and multitenant...
- From: Hans Forbrich <hans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "racattack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <racattack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:46:08 -0600
Hi Ludovico
> Hello Hans,
>
> > I feel the *potential* extra discussion and failure points introduced by
> > multi-tenant is probably outside the mandate of RAC Attack.
>
> I see your point and it makes sense to me after a deeper reflexion. If others
> agree, I'll modify the book to get a standard, non-cdb database.
It's up to the entire team. I'm enthusiastic about CDB but I know it's caused
me some double takes and I really believe it could be a major distraction to
the RAC Attack
> Moreover it will be simpler. Nothing prevents fearless attendees to try this
> option themselves: it's the last step in the installation flow.
>
:-)
>
> Ludovico Caldara
> Consultant
> Infrastructure Managed Services
>
> trivadis AG
> Rue Marterey 5
> CH-1005 Lausanne
>
> Phone +41-58 459 54 54
> Fax +41-21-321 47 01
> Mobile +41-79-909 72 75
> ludovico.caldara@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.trivadis.com
>
> Da: racattack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [racattack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] per conto
> di Hans Forbrich [hans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Inviato: mercoledì 14 agosto 2013 16.27
> A: racattack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Oggetto: [racattack] Re: racattack and multitenant...
>
> Apologies for the wording - it was strictly 'in context of multi-tenant',
> since that was the discussion in that thread. Losing the context makes a
> horrifying jump.
>
> I meant specifically the 'hands-on for multi-tenant'.
>
> IMHO, mandate of RAC Attack is to allow hands-on of core RAC to get people to
> a basic operating environment, so they can feel comfortable going home and
> recommending install of Oracle RAC as a fairly simple and robust alternative,
> *regardless of the OS they have back in their office*.
>
> Since there are a large number of subtle differences between CDB and non-CDB
> environments (for example "sqlplus / as sysdba" access the root, with
> restrictions such as "create user abc" will fail..whereas "create user
> c##abc" will not, and a whole host of other low-level surprises), I feel the
> *potential* extra discussion and failure points introduced by multi-tenant is
> probably outside the mandate of RAC Attack.
>
> I could, however, be easily convinced of the need for MTAttack
> (Multi-Tenant), since MT and the surprising subtle differences is one of the
> topics I will present in DOAG.
>
>
> Hans
>
> On 14/08/2013 7:43 AM, Yury Velikanov wrote:
>> >> However, I do ask whether doing the hands-on is within the current
>> >> 'mandate' of RAC Attack?
>> May I ask you what do you mean by "hands-on" and what do you think the
>> current mandate is?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Yury Velikanov
>> Oracle ACE Director & Team Technical Lead
>> Pythian - Love your data
>>
>> velikanovs@xxxxxxxxxxx | Twitter: @yvelik | Linkedin
>> Tel: +1 613 565 8696 x 1277
>> www.pythian.com AboutMe
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Hans Forbrich <hans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> Multi-tenant opens up a whole new set of opportunities and issues.
>>>
>>> I like the idea of demonstrating the CDB and PDB concept, and will be
>>> willing to discuss that at OOW.
>>>
>>> However, I do ask whether doing the hands-on is within the current
>>> 'mandate' of RAC Attack?
>>>
>>> /Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/08/2013 5:49 AM, Ludovico Caldara wrote:
>>>> Hello %,
>>>>
>>>> Just a little note, in the wikibook I've completed the database creation
>>>> with "enable pluggable database", because I assume that most attendants
>>>> will be eager to try something related to this feature running in a RAC
>>>> environment.
>>>> By consequence, some labs about services and load balancing will involve a
>>>> PDB rather than a non-cdb instance.
>>>>
>>>> If you think that it's a bad idea, I'm open to change it! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Ludovico Caldara
>>>> Consultant
>>>> Infrastructure Managed Services
>>>>
>>>> trivadis AG
>>>> Rue Marterey 5
>>>> CH-1005 Lausanne
>>>>
>>>> Phone +41-58 459 54 54
>>>> Fax +41-21-321 47 01
>>>> Mobile +41-79-909 72 75
>>>> ludovico.caldara@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> www.trivadis.com
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
Other related posts:
