I got a call from Mike Bain from Ilford/Harman, and his opinion, as well as one other person he consulted, is that these prints we've been discussing have suffered oxidative bronzing. Now to me bronzing has been a defect that presents as a reflective mirror effect with little or no discoloration such as an over exposed albumen print, but Mike assured me this is different and is attributed to pollutants of one kind or another. He's also seen this happen when soon after using a cleaning solution on the glass it's put into the frame and closed up. That cleaner which hasn't had enough time to fully evaporate or outgas ends up affecting the print in the same way. His only suggestion to prevent this from happening is selenium toning for a few minutes in either 1:19 or 1:31 dilutions. I had always thought that silver prints processed & washed well would be fairly archival and that selenium gives and added amount of stability for the truly paranoid and also cools the image, but it seems from this conversation that selenium is pretty much a necessary part of the silver process when sending off work to unknown environments and handling. Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.