Hi, I noticed in Phil Davis's article "A Library of Film Curve Families" De, max News Letter vol. 9 issue 1&2 April 2002 available from www.viewcamerastore.com TMX has an apparent hump with Xtol. This might also indicate some roll off of the shoulder. DDX developer exhibits this to a lesser degree, and d-76 is straight at 4, 5.4, and 8 minutes and shows a slight hump at 11, 16 min. Xtol produces the greatest development latitude closely followed by D-76, DDX. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Randall Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:16 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Shoulder and highlight On 12/31/04 7:09 PM, "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In my hand neither T-MAX 100 nor 400 has hump in their curves. T-MAX > P3200 can have it. I'm curious how you got hump in TMX or TMY if it's > what you are talking about. With regard to Xtol, when I was gathering data from my curves testing, I thought I had made a mistake along the way, so I repeated the process with this developer. I got the same results after a second try. A significant density build or hump starting in the lower midtone. I called Silvia Zawadski (sp) and Dick, can't remember his last name. They developed Xtol for Kodak and are now consultants to Kodak as well as others. They explained the hump as a result of greater activity of the developer on film in the midtone area. While the explanation was arcane and incomplete, they did own up to it. I did think from their explanation that the "hump" was specific to the developer and not the film. I've never seen it with any other film/developer combo. By the way, I scanned a bunch of the test film and was pleasantly surprised to find Tmax 400 the hands down winner so far. I shot test rolls of Tmax 400, Tmax 100, Fp4, PlusX and Delta 400. The subject was a woman from England. She has very pale, translucent skin with blond hair. She was wearing a black rayon pullover with tight weave and pants with a loud grey/white texture. Studio strobe lighting with a polaroid exposure at F11 on a RZ67. The main light was a Desisti fresnel strobe which was bare and pointed directly at her face from slightly camera right. Very hot light. Bracketed all film around the indicated exposure and developed in Tmas developer at 68 degrees using using Anchell's times. The Tmax 400 carries so much workable tone it was wonderful. This is my first experience with both the film and developer. I want to try D76 and others. I'm looking for even greater highlight separation. Any suggestions? If any one wants to see the results, send your email address and I will forward the scan. Bob Randall ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.