It sounds like you are not exposing the film enough. Exposure controls density while development controls contrast. Many books on photography have an illustration showing a group of nine negatives of the same subject. The negative in the center has correct exposure and development while the remaining eight show all the combinations of incorrect exposure/density. This illustration can be helpful in determining the properties of a problem negative. In your particular case exposure two sheets of film. One with 1 stop more exposure and one with 2 stops more exposure and check these for proper exposure. Then make a print from each to check for contrast. Old time photographers had a trick to evaluate negatives. First place the negative on a newpaper. You should be able to just read the newspaper through the negative. Now place the negative on a sheet of white paper to judge its contrast. Do not attempt to judge a negative using backlighting as this result in error. Jerry ________________________________ From: Elias_Roustom <elroustom@xxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 8:33:27 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Judging Negatives I'm still working with Efke 100 sheet film and HC110. I'm getting negatives that appear to be a stop off (too thin). I know I should do a proper film speed test, but I'm thinking it's the developer - how I expose this film gives me good results with XTOL. Is there a rule of thumb for how much more time in the developer will yield how much more density in the film? Or should I add a minute each time until I get what I want? Or am I better off doubling my exposure? Thanks, Elias============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.