Thanks, everybody, for the feedback on condensation. It was good to be able to tap in to the wealth of experience in this group - and would have been, too, incidentally, even if all of you said that my own handling WAS the cause of the problem! The feedback confirmed the soundness of my personal strategy, which is to pull frozen film LONG before I'm ready to use it, at least several hours, even a day where logistically possible. I've never had a problem doing this, and it was a relief to hear from so many other shooters to the same effect. This incident reminded me, too, of a friend I coached a couple months ago. He had his first shot all ready, and only then realized that he'd forgotten to take film out of the refrigerator. I told him then, man, you should wait for a good hour, at least. Well, he hesitated, and then said, what the hell. Used it straight out of the refrigerator. I thought it was risky. Personally I probably would have done that, not for a client, not for me; but he no adverse effects resulted. Maybe it would have been different if it were summer in St. Louis, I don't know. Jim, you made a good point, too, about refraining from opening/closing canisters before freezing. I never have done that, but then it never even had occurred to me. Again, I would think that the risk in doing this increases or decreases according to whether it's the fog of San Francisco, the humidity of St. Louis humidity, or the torture of Phoenix. Let's say we'll let somebody experiment on that one. I'm glad you mentioned that, though. Another risky practice to avoid. By the way, the lab resoaked them, and this did fix them. So the entire problem certainly DID originate in their house. The manager told me yesterday that this sort of thing can happen if the run includes clips. I dunno, but a comment like that makes me think somebody was pushing the equipment at the potential expense of quality. Made me think back to the days when the one-hour labs were choosing not to change to fresh chems on Friday afternoons because, well, it's true that they were exhausted, but who wants to waste a whole week's worth of fresh chems for the last ten lousy rolls straggling in on Friday afternoon before the place is shut down for the weekend...?! Mike ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.