I imagine it was the capsaicin in the chilies that, over time with continued
exposure, set off a skin reaction. On the grill there's nothing except
charcoal and mesquite. I knew better than to touch sensitive areas after
handling chilies but had no idea that the exposure would have a longterm
negative effect.
15+ yrs back I had an overall skin reaction that had docs baffled (of course)
and only steroids could suppress the symptoms. I'm sure I posted here about
those travails many times. Since I was very active in the darkroom (daily)
back then, I was tested for sensitivity to a whole slew of photo chemicals at
my insistence with no reaction. A hail mary was then ordered which was testing
me for sensitivity to UV. Bingo. It was UVA....even though I lived in Chicago.
So wearing UV protective clothing plus sunscreen for 6++ months I was able to
get off steroids and gradually back off using sunscreen everyday. I tried
sunscreen on my hands with my present condition but it just irritated them. :(
Someday it will get sorted.
On Wednesday, August 11, 2021, 4:12:35 PM GMT+7, Richard Lahrson
<gtripspud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think it's poison oak in western US and back east it's poison ivy, might be
somewhat different. When Iwas clearing some land with a chainsaw, cuttingdown
mostly oak, pine and minzinta, the stuff was all around. It gets on your
clothes.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 1:16 AM `Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some materials are sensitizers. The stuff in poison Ivy for
instance. You can contact it once with no reaction but the second
time you are in trouble. I can't remember exactly now but some
developing agents are chemically related to the stuff in Poison
Ivy and Poison Oak. Could be the BBQ stuff has something similar
in it.
On 8/11/2021 1:06 AM, Eric Nelson (Redacted sender emanmb for
DMARC) wrote:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I've not been wet since I moved back in 2012, but a couple
years back I started making hot sauces here in BKK. Not wimpy
ones either. All the veg gets smoked and at times I was caught
out at the grill with 1/2 a kilo of thai chilies ready to be
pulled off. So I'd just scoop em up barehanded. Sure I knew
not to touch my eyes etc, but it really didn't bother me much.
I have a high tolerance, or should I say HAD.
I developed a skin condition that has me on steroids now to
keep the symptoms at bay. Someday it may go away but for now
it's not.
So now I NEED nitrile gloves for all food/meal/chili prep as
well as dish washing (playtex work for that) as my hands are
now easily irritated by the constant need to wash in those
processes.
But back in the darkroom days I used tongs as it was easier and
I didn't need to rinse my hands constantly and dry them. There
were times that the tongs needed my free hand to assist, but
for the most part I just kept my hands out. It was just easier
and FASTER. Pyro et al were done in the Jobo so no issues
there, and for platinum etc I kept my hands out of the
developer or at a minimum except for potassium oxalate which I
did my best to avoid. Albumen left AgNO3 stains no matter what
lol.
The times I absolutely used gloves in the dark was with strong
acids. I remember a teeny tiny drop of nitric on my finger
despite being very careful while doing titration analysis of
the albumen AgNO3 solution. Ouch. Learned my lesson.
Eric
On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 3:42:33 AM GMT+7, Richard Lahrson
<gtripspud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Same here. Rinse hands after
being in a solution. I use a tray
rocking and mixing paddle to
agitate. The only times the fingers
are in solutions is the transfer.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM Tim Daneliuk
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On 8/9/21 8:45 AM, BOB KISS (Redacted sender bobkiss for
DMARC) wrote:
> DEAR LIST,
>
> I have posted this info a number of times
before. When I was a student and beginning photog, "real
men don't use tongs or gloves" was the rap. As a result I
needed medical treatment to remove phenols (most dev
agents) and some metals from my liver using chelation.
Further, I love pyro devs and Gordon Hutchins in his BOOK
OF PYRO points out that pyrogallol is both a toxin and
carcinogen...you choose to die quickly or slowly...if you
don't wear gloves.
>
> The "no glove" rule was in direct
contradiction to the lab safety techniques I learned in
both undergrad and grad Photo Chem Lab at RIT. Thank god I
returned to the fold and, for many decades, have used tongs
when possible and gloves when not. I prefer working with
gloves as tongs don't let me handle the prints as
carefully. I also prefer the more puncture proof (and
therefore thinner and more tactile) nitrile exam gloves as
I am also allergic to latex...as are many people.
In my youth, I had my mitts in developer a lot but I didn't
do enough darkroom work
to worry much about it.
I use tongs when printing smaller prints, but occasionally
put fingers in solutions
and rinse immediately. For larger prints I use a
combination of tongs and fingers but - again -
I rise immediately and don't keep hands in solution.
I use nitriles for mixing or using any form of Pyro-based
developers.
I also use nitriles when cleaning up after a darkroom session.
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